No Independence for YOU!

The US president used a keenly awaited press conference with David Cameron, held at the Foreign Office, to explain why he had the “temerity to weigh in” over the high-stakes British question in an intervention that delighted remain campaigners. Obama argued that he had a right to respond to the claims of Brexit campaigners that Britain would easily be able to negotiate a fresh trade deal with the US. “They are voicing an opinion about what the United States is going to do, I figured you might want to hear from the president of the United States what I think the United States is going to do.

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“And on that matter, for example, I think it’s fair to say that maybe some point down the line there might be a UK-US trade agreement, but it’s not going to happen any time soon because our focus is in negotiating with a big bloc, the European Union, to get a trade agreement done”. “The UK is going to be in the back of the queue.”

Writing in the Sun, the mayor of London, a leading advocate for Britain to leave the European Union, said Obama’s country would “not dream of embroiling itself” in anything similar to the EU, which he said was inching towards a federal superstate. Johnson also referred to Obama’s heritage, while claiming that the president had removed a bust of Winston Churchill from the Oval Office in what some had described as a “snub to Britain”.
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Obliquely responding to Johnson, the president said he had voluntarily placed a bust of Churchill outside his private office on the second floor of the White House. “I love Winston Churchill. I loved the guy,” he said.

But Obama admitted that he had replaced a second bust of Britain’s wartime leader that had sat in the Oval Office during the presidency of George W Bush with one of Martin Luther King “to remind me of all the hard work of a lot of people who had somehow allowed me to have the privilege of holding this office”.

He added: “The UK is going to be in the back of the queue.”

During his speech, I found the backpedaling remarks concerning the Churchill bust to be very odd. Almost apologetic, but not quite. I was waiting for him to start bragging about about how we saved their butts from the Nazi’s.



  1. Ah_Yea says:

    Another foreign policy success of this Obama administration!!

    After all, we still had one foreign allies left and that wouldn’t do.

  2. Hmeyers says:

    I’m getting very tired of globalists running this country.

  3. NewFormatSux says:

    You would think Obama would support trade agreements. He is apparently incapable of doing more than one thing at a time.

    • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

      Point is…..Obama prefers to nego a large trade deal and not have it falter due to a small (er) trade deal. Indeed…a good helping of that globalist mentality. Only good for global entities…. like Int’l Corps.

      Sad to see.

  4. Ya Know says:

    Its a shame that those of us who did a little research, back in 2008 were able to see this unqualified community organizer with skepticism from day one. And we were beaten down as racist for our criticism. Some were actual racists, many were just skeptical of a one term Senators meteoric rise to power.

    Granted there wasn’t much information to garner on the mans background…or lack thereof, he was and still is, for the most part the darling of the majority of the news outlets, which has always bothered me. I also understand that the alternative of a McCain/Palin White House was, for me, equally grim. But I do understand why people, including my wife, voted for Obama…the first time.

    I voted 3rd party.

    Now everyone is jumping on the bandwagon, and it is too late.

    The damage is done.

    With Hillary, it’s all laid out in front of you. You don’t need to do any research, no sketchy web sites or YouTube videos. We’re tripping over her baggage on a daily basis. If you vote for her, we will all suffer for it.

    These are the core issues that are the most important for me:

    The Economy and the national debt, this includes:
    Military budget accountability
    Wall Street accountability

    A healthcare system that actually works, but NOT run by the government, maybe partially funded by (see above).

    Open borders and illegal immigration. We cannot police nor can we take care of the whole world financially. Its just not possible.

    A taxing system that is fair to everyone, if that means a flat tax…so be it. Lets at least give it a try. Do away with the expense of the bloated IRS.

    A sane Foreign Policy/less intervention in other countries political disputes.

    A sane environmental policy that doesn’t rely on UNSETTLED science, or attempts to fix it by raising taxes (i.e. cap and trade scams). I like the idea of subsidizing solar where it is beneficial to supplement the grid. Revisit the idea of SAFE nuclear energy, (Whatever happened to the promise of cold fusion?), maybe a Manhattan type project with the worlds best scientist trapped on a ranch in the desert of New Mexico could figure it out.

    Preserving the 2nd amendment in a rational way. Background checks are fine. Gun confiscation will never be.

    A desire to stop the divisive behavior that many of the PC movements thrive on (and profit from, I’m looking at you “Rev.” Al.).

    I only see one potential candidate who is addressing some of the issues that I care about, and he is a very dis-likable character. But the left does not represent my views in any way shape or form.

    I have a dream……..

    • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

      I thought you wanted a gubment that “worked?”

      A party and its candidates that believe in just opposing the Dumbos and that has NO IDEAS AT ALL other than funneling the nations wealth to the upper .01% is not gonna work……….at anything.

      You believe in wishful thinking, talking points, bumper stickers, BS, and dog whistles……proof being, you would elect a half Democrat.

      Sucks to be Right Wingnut.

    • NewFormatSux says:

      There was never any promise of cold fusion. It was a scam. Lubos Motl explained it pretty well.

    • Hmeyers says:

      “Whatever happened to the promise of cold fusion?”

      Are you retarded or something?

      Cold fusion has been in the hoax/scam category since 1989.

      So you haven’t paid any attention in the last 27 years?

      • Ya Know says:

        Yeah I admit, I don’t keep up with changes in nuclear power.

        But you don’t have to be a prick.

        • Hmeyers says:

          If you want good conversation, it might be important to be a bit of a prick.

          It raises the bar a little for conversation.

          I’m not for being a prick.

          But I am for good conversation.

          I am an equal-opportunity harasser of bad information and rewarder of good information.

          • Ya Know says:

            It was a question, and not intended to be informative.

            But I will take note that you like to harass those you deem stupid.

          • Hmeyers says:

            I harass bad information. Anyone can supply bad information.

            Smart people supply bad information too.

          • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

            HM: always happy to call you a prick myself, I don’t think you have been on the subject of cold fusion.

            Anyone who posts on the subject and then defends by saying they don’t follow the subject is somewhat of a retard.

            Unskillful and not embarrassed about it anyway. Happy to blame his betters than recognize his own error and incorporate it for future use.

          • Hmeyers says:

            @ yaknow

            Bobbo is a good example of an occasional supplier of bad information.

            He showed up to attack me, which is fair because on rare occasions I am a supplier of bad information.

            Which is the nature of any informative conversation.

            Bobbo, as it happens, is a rather reliable source of occasional bad information.

            And probably it was the honor system where “bad information” was mentioned that he felt the need to acknowledge his presence.

            Bobbo +1.

          • NewFormatSux says:

            No bobbo +10 for posting
            Anyone who posts on the subject and then defends by saying they don’t follow the subject is somewhat of a retard.

            Have a feeling that this will get reposted in the future…

      • Ah_Yea says:

        Ah, cold fusion. Haven’t heard that in an while. In one of my Physics classes we debunked cold fusion.

        Took about 15 minutes.

  5. Hmeyers says:

    Globalists never give up.

    The idea that USA wouldn’t do a trade deal with an independent UK is dumb.

    As if globalists would allow the USA/UK to not have a free trade agreement.

    The globalists would see a UK exit from the EU as an opportunity to craft a megacorp friendly shitty free trade agreement.

    Barrack “let no crisis go to waste” Obama knows this.

    But as a globalist, he is scaremongering to hear his own voice. Because I don’t think anyone in the UK is interested in his opinion and he can only hurt the “stay in the EU” cause.

  6. NewFormatSux says:

    > I worry about Trump becoming an unchecked monster.

    Noname, how would you feel about Trump with VP Mark Cuban?

  7. jpfitz says:

    I know I can google the info but what does the UK produce or manufacture besides some cars, cheese and weapons?


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