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  1. Tom Wiley says:

    He did this because his son witnessed two gays kissing, and was insulted because his son was exposed to it. Looks like he didn’t care that his son will now be exposed to the fact that his father is now the biggest mass murderer in history.

  2. Tom Wiley says:

    I meant mass shooter in American History

  3. Benjamin says:

    He was being compliant with Sharia Law. Why do we put up with Islamic terrorists in this country?

  4. Tommy says:

    This guy is allowed to speak at Universities. (University of Michigan 2013).

    Gays Must Die Says Speaker At Orlando Mosque WFTV 9 Orlando Report

    The Husseini Islamic Center, 5211 Hester Ave, Sanford, FL 32773, invited Sheikh Farrokh Sekaleshfar to speak at their Mosque. Dr. Sekaleshfar says the killing of homosexuals is the compassionate thing to do.

    In a 2013 speech Sheikh Sekaleshfar said this regarding gays, “Death is the sentence. We know there’s nothing to be embarrassed about this, death is the sentence…We have to have that compassion for people, with homosexuals, it’s the same, out of compassion, let’s get rid of them now.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vev-OzHQy94

  5. Horst says:

    So, it was an act of compassion.

    OK, then.

  6. NewFormatSux says:

    Gays are generally compatible with Muslims, because in both cases, women are just for breeding.

    • Mr Diesel - Go Trump Go!! Beat Hillary Like a Snare Drum says:

      So many people don’t know about man-love Thursday in the Middle East.

      • NewFormatSux says:

        That is the reverse. Taliban came to power by stomping out the pedophiles.

  7. Hmeyers says:

    It is hard to take the government seriously these days.

    They break so many constitutional rights with spying this shouldn’t be possible, right?

  8. Hmeyers says:

    I’m slightly surprised Obama called this terrorism and not workplace violence or something.

    • NewFormatSux says:

      Doesn’t mention Islam but calls for gun control.

    • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

      Not true. Obama: “this was an act of terror and an act of hate.”

      See the difference?

      This is all about the Hateful component of the Muslim Religion, the availability of guns in America, and the lack of social safety net services.

      I could only repeat myself from here on out.

      • NewFormatSux says:

        Lack of social safety net leads to terrorism. Good think Hamas is building hospitals!

        • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

          No NFS….USA needs better use of social counselors/mental health facilities so that we can avoid doing NOTHING until the cops show up.

          Just look.

          • NewFormatSux says:

            And what would you propose doing? ACLU shut all that down decades ago.

          • NewFormatSux says:

            OK, so you weren’t talking like Senator Patty Murray who declared that Bin Laden was doing all sorts of social services and we weren’t.

          • NewFormatSux says:

            You can also avoid doing nothing by having a gun to protect yourself. I thought all bartenders keep shotguns behind the counter?

          • jpfitz says:

            The “shooter” hated gays, saw two kissing and shot up 100 people. That’s a lot of mag unloading and reloading. Gay men have no problem with fighting, how was it that the “shooter” wasn’t jumped.

            bobbo, no social or mental health net would have caught this fish.

            A purchase of the weapons show to the public should have popped a red flag at the FBI, the subject was associated with a know bomber. The Feds should have been at his door that next day, terror suspect buys 5.56 AR and 9mil hand gun.

          • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

            I propose a full panel of mental health counselors be annexed to work with the police to provide on the spot involuntary commitment. Police could do it but a few actually qualified people would be a constant resource/reminder. The real issue this would reveal is lack of psych/counseling services to back up the front line personnel.

            do you want to spend $1 on psych services, or $3 on a police/jail system?

            See…….how the premise is we actually could save money? NOT==>cut the cops that are needed to fund a Psyche program….and then cut the Psyche program because you know: thats SOCIALISM.

            Jp==the reported facts are the guy was a well known, well established nut case for years: constantly on edge and always angry with outbursts against women, gays, and non-Muslims. I have very little doubt the FBI and cops thats interacted with him knew it but could not do anything about it because of: SOCIALISM. The bar to JAIL someone for nutbagery is higher than the bar for mandatory psych review.==but people still need to be provided to do that function. Maybe if the psych techs carried a gun and wore black uniforms with badges, such a programs would be more acceptable.

            Jp==you are getting awful grouchy. That two different words.

      • Tommy says:

        Anti gun nuts are barking up the wrong tree. He worked for DHS contractor you dummies.

        • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

          Similar terror attacks in London and Paris with knives and hatchets resulted in single digit deaths.

          Guns, semi-automatics, with large clips==>make a difference.

          Deal with reality.

  9. ECA says:

    I always wonder about Jealousy of Gay bashing..
    REALLY..What do you gain?
    Even the bible asks…
    Judge least ye be Judged..

    what do you gain or LOOSE, from abusing another person? if they are NOT HARMING YOU..

    TEMPTATION is part of our WHOLE LIFE..

  10. NewFormatSux says:

    Why did they have to report who the shooter was so quickly? I wanted to see liberals turn this into another TrayVon Martin and tell us how the bad guy is a rich white conservative, and this means we need to ban guns.

    • Hmeyers says:

      The weekend reporters are substitutes and not well-trained.

      If you work the weekends, you aren’t the A-Team, your B-Team.

      If it happened during the week, they would cover up the name and religion for as long as absolutely possible like San Bernadino.

  11. Dave Phillips says:

    These folks don’t give a shit about human life. They need to be reeducated.

  12. Allah says:

    Why is he so against gays when he himself is an admitted bisexual that has also been charged with bestiality with goats?

  13. Semantic says:

    Wonder how many of the victims were killed by the cops in the multiple shootouts they had with the shooter? Why did they decide to give him three hours before doing anything?

  14. NewFormatSux says:

    So will George report
    “This week, bullets flew in the streets of Orlando; gays combative as ever….

    • Mr Diesel - Go Trump Go!! Beat Hillary Like a Snare Drum says:

      George Stuffagupolis will report whatever Hillary the Bitch wants him to report if that is the George to which you are referring.

  15. Eddie G says:

    So long as we persist in looking at tragedies like this as somehow validating the liberal extremist agenda, they will continue. We’re like a bunch of alkies that don’t think booze is affecting our lives, and attack anyone who tries to say otherwise.

  16. Second Choice says:

    … And let the moronic gun debates once again begin.

    That said, this is no different than another airliner full of people falling out of the sky for whatever reason. The only difference is HOW anyone died.

    Preventable?

    If you say, yes. Ask yourself, HOW?! What are you giving up in order to stay safe in a naturally unsafe world? Because personally, I can only wonder if anyone’s life — or possibly EVERYONE’S life — in that Orlando club could have been saved if the right person had a gun of his/her own and was able to take that crazy asshole out (as in shoot him) before he was able to lift his weapon or pull a trigger.

    Remember: When you outlaw guns, only the OUTLAWS will have the guns.

    • jpfitz says:

      Ask yourself this, how many time did he eject mags to reload? Thirty rounds a mag. At least 100 rounds fired, more like 200 for 49 dead and 50 wounded.

      • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

        More than that. At intervals he would walk among the injured and inert on the floor and finish them off with 2-3-4 more shots.

        Human nature: only if you KNEW what the guy was going to do would you rush a guy armed with a semi-auto….only hoping 20 other guys would do the same?

        ……………..but hoomans have a rough estimate of odds and flight scores over fight for the majority of us.

        Gun Nuts vs Nuts with Guns. Takes…..both.

  17. Mr Diesel - Go Trump Go!! Beat Hillary Like a Snare Drum says:

    Not once has one of my advisers said man if we just use that phrase….

    Are you kidding me. What a worthless president. Jimmie has got to get up everyday and thank some supreme being that his isn’t the worst president in history any more.

    First thing they blame is assault weapons when the shithead didn’t use nor did he even have an assault weapon, he just had a rifle like millions of other gun owners. Learn the difference shit for brains.

    Remember, this isn’t the worst mass shooting in the history of the U.S.. Look up Wounded Knee. But it’s okay when the government does the shooting.

    • jpfitz says:

      No, he had a semi-automatic AR style pistol grip ASSAULT rifle with 30 round mags. That is not a plain Rifle. It’s a morons tactical human killing weapon to add all sorts of strobe flashlights and laser sights on the rails. Ooow, exciting.

      I got no problem with the weapon, because you can buy a Ruger Mini-14 rifle same caliber 5.56mm.

      http://ruger.com/products/mini14TacticalRifle/specSheets/5847.html

      • Tommy says:

        You blame this on the man and the ideology that set him on this path, period. He was a self hating gay Muslim, the tool he used does not matter.

        Got it?

        • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

          Of course the tool matters.

          Have you ever used a tool?

          Tool.

          • Tommy says:

            You’re deflecting.

            Do you think maybe he should have been vetted a little bit better before he was given a service pistol and allowed to guard a courthouse?

            What part does political correctness play in the fact that he was known to make threats, cheered 9/11, and still worked for the DHS as a contractor.

            Your government has failed you. Blame it on that.

          • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

            Tommy===the failure of background checks has ZERO to do with how to kill the most people.

            Deflecting to the Max Degree……because on second thought…..while you demonstrate you are still a tool, you do recognize that tools are purpose built for different purposes. Did you have to google that point?

          • Tommy says:

            Har…you’re never going to get your way with gun control, so just give it up.

            Why do you waste your time with this?

          • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

            Because the Mods are science denying anti global warming Luddites and coin collecting has no interest for me.

          • Tommy says:

            Ah yes, but how do the Rockers feel?

        • jpfitz says:

          Hey Tommy, NO I don’t got it.

          First off, Tommy, you were not there to witness what really transpired, nor was I.

          Assault may be the wrong label, Assault rifles typically have a fire selector. Semi-auto AR’s legal in America will do more damage to soft tissue then their military counterpart. Fragmentation cartridges are NOT allowed on the battlefield, but Okey Dokey for our tree lined streets. Joy and happiness to all.

          “The Hague Convention of 1899, Declaration III, prohibited the use in international warfare of bullets that easily expand or flatten in the body.[3] This is often incorrectly believed to be prohibited in the Geneva Conventions, but it significantly predates those conventions, and is in fact a continuance of the St. Petersburg Declaration of 1868, which banned exploding projectiles of less than 400 grams, as well as weapons designed to aggravate injured soldiers or make their death inevitable. NATO members do not use small arms ammunition that are prohibited by the Hague Convention and the United Nations.[citation needed]

          Despite the ban on military use, hollow-point bullets are one of the most common types of bullets used by civilians and police,[4] which is due largely to the reduced risk of bystanders being hit by over-penetrating or ricocheted bullets, and the increased speed of incapacitation.”

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollow-point_bullet

      • Mr Diesel - Go Trump Go!! Beat Hillary Like a Snare Drum says:

        You do know that he had to reload at least 4 times and at no time did anyone try to stop him.

        An assault rifle is fully automatic. The term is used by hoplophobic morons who blame an inanimate object for something it can’t do. In case you don’t get that means the gun cannot just jump up and run into a crowded theater or bar and start shooting people.

        http://nationalreview.com/corner/358704/journalists-guide-firearms-identification-charles-c-w-cooke

        • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

          Neither can someone without a gun.

          Not too hard to figure out diesel.

          More Deflection. Evidently the new term for Red Herring or being incredibly gullible.

          • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

            Hey Mods: delete my post just above, it was meant for Horst, posted again to him.

            PEDRO!!!!!! The very first time I ….((no, its the second time…first time was your go around regarding ct scanners)) have seen you make any effort at all to make a cogent post.

            OR…..was it a random flip through your new Word A Day Calendar?

            On a level of subtlety you will neve appreciate, you are in the family of words you intend, but the actual word that best fits would be “paroxysmistic.”

            Of course…depending on what you actually mean to say which is always a mystery unless one accepts “nothing.”

            So close…..but keep turning those pages.

          • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

            Hey Mods: that was the first time I’ve seen you do that.

            Thank you.

            …….and I should have said: “Please.”

            I think it will make the thread flow more sensibly.

            Now, Could you please delete every Post from Pedro that uses more than 2 polysyllabic words? We don’t want the boy hurting his brain.

        • jpfitz says:

          Yeah, yeah, yeah, the Assault rifle has a fire selector. Buy the way the real men in military forces are told to select single fire for accuracy.

          But, you are totally wrong about the semi fire.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo4kFzECXGs

        • Tim says:

          “”the gun cannot just jump up and run into a crowded theater or bar and start shooting people.

          This one can:
          http://animalnewyork.com/2010/beyonce-took-away-jay-zs-gun-on-legs/

    • NewFormatSux says:

      This is the guy who previously said “Free at Last- Just words? We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal- Just words?…”

  18. Horst says:

    FBI monitor right wing Christian Patriot groups:

    Liberals: No Problem

    FBI monitors Mormon groups that practice polygamy:

    Liberal: No problem

    FBI monitors KKK groups while meeting in church:

    Liberal: No Problem

    DOJ orders the massacre of Men, Women and Children in Waco Texas Church compound.

    Liberal: No Problem

    FBI monitors Islamic Center after talk of jihad.

    Liberal: Hey that’s RACIST.

    • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

      Makes me smile…………as the actual argument does go both ways.

      I actually do buy into the point you make though….with the quibble that xenophobia always needs to be guarded against…… not to the point of self injury such as not monitoring suspected organizations preaching hate: regardless of the particular fantasies involved.

  19. jpfitz says:

    “RACIST”…it’s a religion not a race of people. But, yes monitor the places where a bad apple was grown.

  20. jpfitz says:

    The whole gun issue is out of hand. Let’s talk about Why. Why. Why.

    Fucking answer me, Why.

    Drones?
    Meddling in Arab elections?
    Trying to create democracy in the sand?
    Finding Bin laden?
    Rublization of much of the Levant, except for Israel?
    Air base too close to Mecca?

    Any other reasons besides they hate us for our freedom and hate gays would be welcome. Why?

    • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

      Nice rant Jp. but consider, “we” (the USA) are almost merely collateral damage to the Jihad ISIS is in the middle of. I see ISIS as no different than Trump emerging from the Republican Party. Preach stupidity long enough and you will get such movements.

      In Fact: what you list would be reasons for you and me to take up arms…..but is irrelevant to ISIS.

      Amusing?

      • jpfitz says:

        Yeah, the Trump phenomenon has been in the slow cooker for a while. The derisive and divisive words from his mouth makes the frightened angry citizens feel at home and safe. Sad, very sad.


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