1. Mr Diesel - Vote for the Bitch Hillary says:

    It was not a Freudian slip, she thinks that, she is hoping to get to do it and she believes in her scheming black heart that it will help bring down the country and control the people.

    What a worthless piece of shit she is perfectly complementing the one already in the Whitehouse.

    Besides, someone has to pay for all the free stuff for the worthless Bernie supporters.

    The sooner we get her into office the sooner the country will descend into Venezuela and we have anarchy and can start taking car of the problem the old fashioned way.

  2. Gitmogator says:

    She is reading it off a prompter…..wow. Buffet in his seat just clapping away.

  3. Elliot says:

    Finally, a campaign promise that you know they will keep.

  4. Thom says:

    And you can take that to the Bank!

  5. Phydeau says:

    McCullough… the natives aren’t restless enough already? You have to poke them again?

  6. Dateline 2/1/2017 says:


    President Hillary Clinton announces her nomination of Barrack Obama to the Supreme Court. STOP

    In an amazing display of bipartisanship Congressional Leaders confirm the Presidents nomination in an unprecedented special session of congress. STOP

    House Speaker Paul Ryan conceded,”Now we can get stuff done”.

  7. bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

    Last I heard, Hillary stupidly said the middle class were those earning $250K or more? Those folks probably do need to pay more in taxes…but most likely as snopes has reported: just a simple misstatement.

    You know what they call people who get all excited about obvious misstatements? Thats right: RightWingNuts.

    Enjoy the illusion.

    • ± says:

      No need to post. Just vote for who is best for YOUR OWN SELF INTERSTS.

      For the record, she obviously was reading off of the (miscued) teleprompter¹. And look at all the robots who in lock step, applauded it like it is a good idea that they have been in sync together with her on this idea. These are your sheeple, including Buffet.

      The worst thing about this is that every last loser R flavored D/R will be spewing this as doctrine until the election.

      If only it were possible to watch a time lapse of the fall of Rome (compressing the centuries into a few hours). You could probably lay it on top of what is happening now and see almost a perfect fit. The people with power to fix (the electorate) it fucked it up.

      ¹of course the person responsible for this gaff is now fired or worse

  8. Thom says:

    “Last I heard, Hillary stupidly said the middle class were those earning $250K or more? Those folks probably do need to pay more in taxes.”

    It depends where you live, but that’s never taken into consideration, is it?

    “just a simple misstatement.”

    Thank you Captain Obvious.

    She will however raise taxes on the middle class, but to actually use it as campaign promise, would be dumb even for this stupid woman.

    • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

      “It depends where you live,”—No…it doesn’t.

      Simple math.

      • Thom says:

        You do the math, compare the cost of living in New York City vs. Arkansas.

        I know math is hard.

        • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

          No….you compare living in NYC on 250K per year to living in NYC on 80 K per year.

          The math….follows right along.

          • Thom says:

            Mindless gobbledygook.

            You’d do well as a politician.

          • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

            Thank You.

            Denying the reality of Math is an exercise for the like of Pedro.

            Best to avoid such steep descents into insanity.

          • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

            How am I dishonest Pedro?

  9. Ah_Yea says:

    She spoke the truth unintentionally.

    Sure she will raise taxes on the rich, who then charge more to the middle class for their services, who then pay more.

    Trickle down taxes.

    So yes, she will make the middle class pay more through an indirect taxation, and she knows it.

    With Buffet clapping in the background. He in on it. Why do you think so many Dems are so rich? They know they have the Government in their pocket and make it work for them. Even though they pay their “fair share”, it still comes out of your pocket.

    • Hmeyers says:

      Trump’s special ability to “insert foot in mouth” means that …

      Hillary could probably make an actual campaign promise to raise taxes on the middle class and — win!

      The president is largely a figurehead and even though Hillary is a disgusting person, people will pick a disgusting person who seldom talks off-script over a guy who says something tasteless every day.

      I feel that Trump is right on the issues that matter: trade agreements, fix Obamacare and that immigration needs to be moderated more.

      But gosh, wouldn’t it be great if he didn’t stick his foot in his mouth.

      Doesn’t he do 2 bad gaffes per week? Hasn’t he said something terrible at least once per week every week for a year?

      • Geoworker says:

        A rational statement with much insight and understanding. What a choice America has: someone who actually has a little understanding of the real issues that need to be addressed….but plays the fool constantly which undermines everything he’s about; and someone who couldn’t care less about anything (except money) and who’s reliability is seriously in question.

        • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

          Trump is an isolated narcissist. What makes you think he is “playing” the fool rather than revealing himself to be one?

          I’ll wait for your considered response.

          And Yes: Hillary is a known product. We do know exactly what she won’t accomplish. A few crumbs, some failed attempts, and a more liberal SCOTUS. A middling performance. Far superior to outright disaster promised by the Pukes.

          • Geoworker says:

            No argument with the fool role. It seems to be part of his DNA.

          • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

            Well done Sir.

            An honest response. You won’t enjoy it here.

          • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

            Pedro: always good to see you in high form……………

            “I know I am but what are you?”


    • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

      Everything you don’t like is now a tax?

      Why don’t you stifle yourself and use the actual meaning of words for your thinking and posting rather than your kneejerk reaction to everything?

      Fat chance of that…but atleast you appear to understand that trickle down economics is NOT VALID. … or are you just totally unhinged and tossing your word salad?

  10. NewFormatSux says:

    “I hope you will compare what I am proposing versus my hus – my opponent is talking about”

  11. Lock Her Up! says:



    • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

      …………said the Republican Corporate AlreadyTooRich shill.

      WAKE UP ELECTORATE: Vote YOUR OWN economic self interest. Not dog whistles of BS.

      • NewFormatSux says:

        Let’s see, Hillary Clinton means higher energy bills, higher gas prices, higher car prices, higher house prices, higher property taxes, higher income taxes, higher health insurance premiums, and even higher food prices as they shift supply to biofuels.

        • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

          NFS–higher compared to what? Normal inflation?? Donald Trump??? do you have a source for each claim…or is your list just everything you found up your ass?

          • NewFormatSux says:

            Let’s see:
            Clean Power Plan -> Higher energy bills

            Norman Chu “We need to get gas prices to the level of Europe”.
            Opposition to the Keystone Pipeline
            Shutting down oil drilling
            -> Higher gas prices.

            Higher car prices, already happening, notice all those ads about aluminum bodies? Those were forced by higher fuel mileage mandates, never voted on by Congress, instead implemented by a ‘sue and settle’ scheme.

            Others are already happening, and of course you support it all except for maybe AFFH.

          • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

            Good Job NFS…at least you tried…somewhat.

            Clean Power Plan -> Higher energy bills /// Every solar plan I have ever seen saves money. Does require an initial upfront investment with a real payback absent subsidies of about 25 years…but its as you say: clean. What do you want….dirty power for your kiddies to choke on?

            Norman Chu “We need to get gas prices to the level of Europe”. /// I don’t know the man, but his brother Steven recommends that as providing a market place solution to co2 pollution rather than a carbon tax or over regulation. So…yes more expensive because the gubment would finally be taking action rather than living in denial. Life does get more expensive the more people there are…the more long term problems/challenges are dealt with. But again: if doing so would push the market to green cars…again…the consumer would come out ahead, in the LONG TERM.

            Opposition to the Keystone Pipeline
            Shutting down oil drilling /// Thank God. The dirtiest coal in the world does not have to be transiting the largest water aquifer in America. Coal is OLD TECH. Get with the future.

            -> Higher gas prices. //// And yet they are the lowest in a decade.

            Higher car prices, already happening, notice all those ads about aluminum bodies? /// Mostly inflation I have to assume. But for gas mileage issues, apply the above regarding actually dealing with the need to transition to a Green Energy Economy.

            Those were forced by higher fuel mileage mandates, never voted on by Congress, instead implemented by a ‘sue and settle’ scheme. //// Yep…no reason to wait for the bought and paid for Congress Creeps.

            Others are already happening, and of course you support it all except for maybe AFFH. /// Can’t devine the acronym.

            The only person promising higher cost programs is TRUMP. Thats what a Tariff on incoming goods means. Thats what a trade war with China will do. Thats what repealing Obamacare will do.

            Just Look. (meaning….take the blinders off)

          • NewFormatSux says:

            You acknowledge the higher prices, and your support for them, then declare that the only candidate that would raise prices is Trump.

          • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

            Whaaaaaaaa? You mean BOTH SIDES RAISE PRICES??????

            That there is not a bucket’s worth of spit difference between the two corporate power parties?

            ………..Tell me it ain’t so!!!!!

            I’ll let you figure out which side is more honest about it.

          • NewFormatSux says:

            More honest is clearly not you as you declare Trump is the one doing it.

            And you didn’t say vote for the one with lower prices, but to vote your economic self-interest. I think Trump’s plans for higher tariffs would still be in one’s economic benefit, as the higher prices are offset by higher wages that come from factories being here, as well as less illegals competing for jobs.
            Then you have the economic benefits of lower gas prices, lower energy bills, lower car prices, lower health insurance premiums, and lower taxes.

      • ± says:

        ***** ejaculated bobbo***************
        WAKE UP ELECTORATE: Vote YOUR OWN economic self interest. Not dog whistles of BS.

        Wow! Greater good be damned!
        At least you’re not trying to hide it any more.

        • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

          The greater number of people switching from dog whistle emotional issues to their own economic self interest ……………


          Dog whistles that loud in your head?

          • ± says:

            The basic arithmetic of the working masses paying for all you liberals and not finally rebelling against doing so eludes you. (he said stating the obvious while joining the others who have tried to make you understand this)

          • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

            Works all over Europe. How is that possible?

            30 years ago, USA had the largest middle class. Today we are in 27th place with Germany in the top slot. Germany: with all their social programs and worker involved capitalist system. How is that possible?

            You have the AlreadyTooRich pissing into your ear…and you call it sunshine.

            Silly Puke. Getting raped by the AlreadyTooRich and you vote for it so that the scraps you have been given won’t be taken away and given to someone else.

            Playing the Poor off against the other Poor.

            What STOOGES you are. NOT voting your own best interests.

            something……….. guns …………. don’t solve.

            Sucks to be you.

    • Clancy Daddy says:

      Stay stupid vote republican .

  12. Phydeau says:

    A great quote from one of the many internet memes, this one from “American News X”, whoever that is:

    If Hillary Clinton is a crook, then she’s the smartest God-damned criminal in the world, because Republicans have spent 25 years and 500 million dollars on witch hunts that have turned up absolutely nothing.

    Or, maybe she isn’t the one who is crooked after all?


    Sometimes where there’s smoke, there’s just a big-ass smoke machine.

    • Phydeau says:

      And yes, she’s a shifty politician. Get over it. Yours are shifty too. They’re all a little shifty to one extent or another.

      • Thom says:

        So they’ve turned up nothing? REALLY…..NOTHING!!!!

        Shall we go over the list again?

        • Phydeau says:

          Sorry I didn’t make myself clear Thom… I was talking about the real world, not Fox News world. I know in your world she’s guilty of everything she’s ever been accused of, and it’s only the massive conspiracy of everyone who’s not Fox News that’s keeping her out of jail.

        • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

          Well yeah….I’d like to see “the list.” I have a short one myself that I’ll post if you go first.

          ………and the challenge/interest will be as Phydeau has telegraphed.

  13. Why always for middle class.

  14. Phydeau says:

    Sorry, I know this thread is about bashing Hillary… but dang.

    Fifty of the nation’s most senior Republican national security officials, many of them former top aides or cabinet members for President George W. Bush, have signed a letter declaring that Donald J. Trump “lacks the character, values and experience” to be president and “would put at risk our country’s national security and well-being.”

    Not that they’re Hillary fanboys…

    “None of us will vote for Donald Trump,” the letter states, though it notes later that many Americans “have doubts about Hillary Clinton, as do many of us.”


    I guess national security officials don’t take kindly to “jokes” inviting Russians to crack America servers, or how much Drumpf has been playing footsie with Putin.

    • NewFormatSux says:

      Loyal servants of the Bush Clinton dynasty. Jeb gives Hillary a Liberty Medal.

      I wonder if any will asked about the Iranian scientist who was killed, the one mentioned in Hillary’s e-mails.

  15. Sage says:

    How do you guys fall for this? Sheesh. She said “aren’t,” and that’s what the audience heard. And there is a transcript of the speech. Here is an analysis: http://www.snopes.com/2016/08/04/hillary-clinton-raise-taxes/

    • You're an idiot says:

      Stop smoking the Sage…it isn’t healthy.

    • NewFormatSux says:

      I never watched the video. I assumed she meant to say we are going to raise taxes on the wealthy.

      It is clear she is saying “aren’t”

  16. Thom says:

    Muslim terrorists father support Hillary.


    How did this guy get to sit directly behind Hillary. Somebody is not doing their job….or maybe they are doing their job.


    • Phydeau says:


      There ya go Thom, I translated it for you.

      Heh, Kissimmee, reminds me of the joke, if the Houston baseball team had a farm team there, it would be the Kissimmee Astros. Har!

      • Thom says:

        Killary does love her some terrorists, you said it.

      • Johnathan says:

        This coming from the guy who shits his pants every time some trailer trash racist expresses his support for Trump.

        Phydeau you are a hypocrite, and you know it.

    • NewFormatSux says:

      Nothing fishy. They were doing there job, and having minorities appear on camera. SNL even jokes about it.

  17. Johnathan says:

    Exposing Killary voter fraud and corruption in the DNC can be hazardous to your health.

    This is coming from Sanders supporters, not Fox News.


    • Phydeau says:


      Some are speculating that Hillary Clinton is behind the murder


      Twitter Users Hilariously Troll Trump With #ManyPeopleAreSaying Meme

      This fits right in! #ManyPeopleAreSaying Hillary Clinton has had dozens if not hundreds of people killed!

      #ManyPeopleAreSaying that Johnathan has carnal knowledge of his dog. I’m not saying it, but many people have said it. I’m just saying…

      • Johnathan says:

        To be fair, the poor Iranian guy wasn’t killed directly by Killary, just by her incompetent use of a private server. But thanks for reminding me. I’ll add him to the list.

        So why would you vote for a fat old white grossly negligent (says the FBI Director) serial killer like Killary?

        Have you lost your mind?

        • Phydeau says:

          #ManyPeopleAreSaying that you’re an ignernt idjit, Johnathan. I’m not. But many people are. Just saying…

          • Johnathan says:

            “According to a report at CounterJihad, calls to Seddique Mateen, father of Orlando jihadi Omar Mateen, and other relatives “are now redirected to a phone number for a CAIR attorney, and another CAIR lawyer is sitting in on FBI interviews with suspects at Mateen’s radical mosque in Fort Pierce, Fla. – even though the FBI has suspended formal ties to CAIR over the group’s association with terrorist groups.”

            CAIR has officially endorsed Killary…the champion of radical islamic raghead terrorists! YaY!

      • Johnathan says:

        Even the Clinton News Network is shocked at the incompetency of allowing a mass murderers father and supporter of killing gays sit behind it during a speech.

        Gotta live the idjits. Couldn’t find their ass if it was handed to them.

  18. Phydeau says:


    QUESTIONER: With regard to the October surprise, what would be your forecast on that given what Julian Assange has intimated he’s going to do?

    ROGER STONE: Well, it could be any number of things. I actually have communicated with Assange. I believe the next tranche of his documents pertain to the Clinton Foundation but there’s no telling what the October surprise may be.

    Assange, of course, is not an American citizen and has uncomfortably close ties to Russia. In addition to having a show on their state-run propaganda channel RT, there’s also the little matter of the DNC emails stolen by a Russian intelligence agency and released by Assange with the explicit intent of throwing the election to Trump.

    It’s not clear that what Roger Stone confessed to amounts to an actual crime but the fact that he’s coordinating with Assange should trouble even the most ardent Trump supporter. Normalizing election tampering by other countries and actively encouraging it by concluding with them is a very dangerous precedent to set.

    So we have a Republican operative coordinating with a foreign national, a known Hillary hater to release “documents” that might purport to show some bad behavior on Hillary’s part. With this knowledge, I don’t think we can believe anything about what WikiLeaks releases about Hillary now. “Dear Barack, let’s give lots of money to ISIS, they’re so great! 🙂 🙂 Hillary”

    What a shame, I thought WikiLeaks was doing a service to the world, until Assange turned out to be a right-wing wacko.

    Really, guys? Really? You hate America that much that you want foreigners to influence our elections?

    • Phydeau says:

      Whoops, mangled the blockquote. Last section starting with “So we have…” is my text.

      • Johnathan says:

        Who cares?

        Who tampered with the DNC to sabotage the Sanders campaign? Using his atheism and race as a weapon against him, was that Assange too?

        You morons are just toooo much.

        If Assange and the Russians knock Killary out of the race, they’ll be doing us a BIG favor. I don’t want that incompetent lying criminal as President.

        • Phydeau says:

          Thanks for letting us know how much you hate America, Johnathan. Now go f*ck yourself.

        • Phydeau says:

          Johnathan is just too much. A guy whose party’s success was based on using race against people (google “southern strategy”) gets his panties in a twist over the D’s doing it. Johnathan, you’re a piece of shit work.

          • Phydeau says:

            Sorry, the D’s talking about doing it. I don’t recall any big attacks on Bernie’s Jewishness or atheism in the primary campaign. So stuff it, Johnathan.

          • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

            Phydeau: why are you going back to the 60’s for the Southern Strategy when Trump is using racism, sexism, and anti-handicapped STILL as his calling card. I listed homophobia, but don’t recall that specifically…so, you know, in fairness and truth and accuracy, I had to delete it.

            But yeah, some lower level cogs at the DNC “talked about” whether or not to use Bernies atheism/jew status (same thing…right?) against him. But no one did.

            Totally the same track record.

            I can’t believe anyone would complain about politicians giving friends of friends jobs. Its called “networking” and EVERYONE does it…in and out of politics.

            but between you and me, I think Hillary should have hired Schultz if that was the inside deal…but not annouce it for a year or more. Nice vacation for a job well done. …. and that too is Politics.

            …. the real world.

          • Johnathan says:

            Exactly dummy, who needs the racist low level cogs when the whole thing was rigged with Super-delegates to begin with, you know it, I know it, Bernie fucking knows it, hell even a mouth breather like Phydeau knows it.

            Deny it.

          • Johnathan says:

            “Two secret letters the FBI sent to the State Department have revealed for the first time that the bureau’s investigation into Hillary Clinton’s private email server, and the classified emails sent through it, stemmed from a so-called “Section 811” referral from the Intelligence Community’s Inspector General (ICIG). “The ICIG determined that classified, national security information in Clinton’s emails may have been “compromised” and shared with “a foreign power or an agent of a foreign power.”

            Section 811 of the Intelligence Authorization Act of 1995 “is the statutory authority that governs the coordination of counterespionage investigations between Executive Branch departments or agencies and the FBI.” A Section 811 referral is a report to the FBI about any unauthorized information that may have been disclosed to a foreign power.”

            If even one person dies from this woman’s incompetence, then prison is the only solution. And morons want this crook as President.


            Vote for Crooked Hillary!


          • Johnathan says:

            BTW, Jews aren’t always atheists.

            That’s an very ignorant statement on your part.

          • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

            Yes Jonathan: everyone does know about the Super Delegates. Anything else OBVIOUS you want to post about? Those delegates are in place to STOP the nominating process from going off the rails and select someone like ………………. …………….. …………. Ha, ha. ………………. you guessed it: TRUMP!

            Pros and Cons to all we do.

            Hillary is a crook that will keep secret, lie, cheat and steal as much as she can while in office and afterwards. Lets say: One Billion Dollars????

            I got comfortable with that seeing TRUMPS budget plan: 9 Trillion in Debt to be run up to favor the AlreadyTooRich.

            Can you do the math Jonathan??????

            Can you????????????????????????????

    • NewFormatSux says:

      >What a shame, I thought WikiLeaks was doing a service to the world, until Assange turned out to be a right-wing wacko.

      So you like him if he leaks against Republicans, but not if he leaks against Democrats.

      Paul Manafort talking to him is irrelevant, since WikiLeaks is about the Leaks, not the Hacks.

  19. Johnathan says:

    “Shortly after Hillary Clinton took the reins as U.S. secretary of State in 2009, a longtime confidante with deep ties to the Clinton Foundation pressed her senior aides to give a job to an unidentified male associate.

    “Important to take care of” the person, Douglas Band told Clinton aides Huma Abedin, Cheryl Mills and Nora Toiv in an April 22, 2009, email with the subject line “A favor…”. The name of the aide is redacted.

    “We have all had him on our radar,” Abedin responded. “Personnel has been sending him options.”

    Cronyism….and corruption. Vote for Killary.

    • Phydeau says:


      Ok, Johnathan, I’m done with you. Really. It’s just not sporting. Never try to teach a pig to sing… it just wastes your time and annoys the pig. I’ll stop wasting my time and annoying you. Have a great day. 🙂

  20. Johnathan says:

    Its been fun playing you like a fiddle….LOL.


  21. Phydeau says:

    Trump suggests his supporters could shoot Clinton if she wins.


    The Republican presidential nominee was stoking fears that Clinton will abolish the Second Amendment if she wins the presidency, and alluded that she would try to do this by nominating Supreme Court justices in favor of doing so.

    “If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do folks,” he said. “Although the Second Amendment people maybe there is, I don’t know.


    So Donald Trump is suggesting that people with guns who don’t like Hillary Clinton could shoot her after she wins the presidency, to stop her from nominating Supreme Court justices who would rule against gun ownership.

    Wingnuts are backpedaling furiously, claiming he meant it was about getting gun owners to the polls, but that’s bullshit. He clearly was talking about President Hillary Clinton appointing Supreme Court justices, after she won the election.

    Donald Trump just encouraged violence against Hillary Clinton. That’s against the law. He should be arrested. And it doesn’t matter if the cheesy little f*ck was “joking”, it’s still against the law. Try “joking” about bombs at airports.

    This man keeps going lower and lower, and little f*cks like Johnathan still support him.

    Y’all are disgusting.

    • Phydeau says:

      It seems inevitable… there will most likely be an attempt on Clinton’s life during the election or after she wins. And you nutballs are supporting that. Why do you hate America so much?

    • Phydeau says:


      The former head of the CIA, retired Gen. Michael Hayden, told CNN’s Jake Tapper: “If someone else had said that said outside the hall, he’d be in the back of a police wagon now with the Secret Service questioning him.”

    • NewFormatSux says:

      It was liberals who keep telling people Trump is Hitler that nearly got him assassinated, and you sit here and blame Trump.

      • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

        nfs==YES, its well known the truth has a liberal bias. The analogies of Trump to Hitler are VERY STRONG. What is a telling difference is the recent history of USA compared to Germany (No BIG losing wars, no hyper inflation). Is Trump EXACTLY like Hitler???….Of course not….that would be stoopid.

        You just keep focusing on those difference NFS. Ignore reality, any insight at all, …. the truth.

  22. Phydeau says:

    I’ve seen plenty of you say you hate both candidates. Pedrito, I’m talking to you. But Clinton hasn’t claimed the election will be rigged, and encouraged violence if she doesn’t win. Clinton hasn’t encouraged people to kill President Trump before he appoints Supreme Court justices.

    They are not equally bad. If you stay silent, you might as well be encouraging Trump.

    There is no middle ground here.

    • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

      C’mon Phydeau: Clinton totally rigged her nomination aga poor old Bernie. Bernie didn’t stand a chance what with the Clinton Machine working on getting elected for the past 20 years.

      What with all the rigging already in place by the Pukes, Hillary would be foolish not to do whatever she could to get the balance back near to the center.

      There “should be” an overwhelming popular vote for Clinton, but the Dumbos only have a slight edge for taking the Senate and not much of a chance at changing the House.

      But…the Puke rigging much less effect for Pres than it does for State Positions and Congress. What Hillary should be doing is ‘UNRIGGING the election by sueing voter discrimination laws, voter disqualifications and so forth and making sure her vote flipping machines get into as many jurisdictions as possible. AND—review all ballots for confusing lay outs. No more Bushes!!!!

      • Phydeau says:

        Bobbo, if you look at nominations at conventions over the years, yes, lots of shady stuff going on. The powers that be get the ones nominated that they want. That’s the way it’s always been. And until we get campaign finance reform, that’s the way it’ll always be. Clinton is no different from any of the others. I’ve always said, she’s the Republican in the race, as Republicans used to be known, and Bernie was the Democrat. But Trump is just so different not just from Clinton but from previous Republicans. Look at all the Republicans publicly disowning him. The things he says, the hatred he encourages, is dangerous to our country. Everyone should be disowning him. But the hard core wingnuts still love him, God help them. 🙄

        • Tomas says:

          Careful Phydeau, bobbo is the only friend you have left here, don’t piss him off. It’s always a bit of fun watching you grovel when your mentor calls you for going off the rails.

          Even a ridiculous old communist like bobbo thinks you’re a nutter.

          • Phydeau says:

            The nutter here is the Republican presidential candidate who offhandedly suggests that people with guns can stop President Clinton from appointing Supreme Court justices… Oh yeah, and the people who follow him are nutters too.

            F*ck off, Tomas. Y’all are so far off the rails, you’re a danger to America now.

          • Tomas says:

            WELL! I never!

            But seriously asswipe, you thinks its OK for Killary to murder her enemies, so anything you have to say beyond that is irrelevant.

          • Phydeau says:

            The Clinton insanity is strong with this one. 🙂

            Be careful when you go to bed tonight Tomas… she might be hiding under it, ready to GET YOU when you turn off the light!!! 🙄 🙄 🙄

  23. NewFormatSux says:

    These Trump crazies think mass immigration, war, and DC corruption are hurting America, but the real culprits are Vladimir Putin and racism.

  24. Ah_Yea says:

    We all know Hillary has the death watch, now there is more proof.

    According to Julian Assange, Democratic Aide to Hillary, Seth Rich, was the source of the recent DNC email leaks, and he was murdered.

    “Julian Assange: Whistleblowers go to significant efforts to get us material and often very significant risks. As a 27 year-old, works for the DNC, was shot in the back, murdered just a few weeks ago for unknown reasons as he was walking down the street in Washington.
    Reporter: That was just a robbery, I believe. Wasn’t it?
    Julian Assange: No. There’s no finding. So… I’m suggesting that our sources take risks.”


    • Phydeau says:

      Ah yes, Julian Assange, well-known Hillary hater and Putin buddy. Just the kind of dispassionate observer you can believe. 🙄 🙄 🙄

      • Ah_Yea says:

        Ah, Phydeau. Apologist extraordinaire.

        I’m with Killary! Yes, I imagine you would excuse murder for your own political ends.

        • Phydeau says:

          I imagine you would believe an obviously biased person for your own ends.

          Seriously… you wingnuts have really gone nuts. Now death threats against Clinton. You people are dangerous to America.

  25. Phydeau says:

    Come on, wingnuts. Who among you has the balls to admit they agree with the big orange cheeto? Come on, admit you agree with him, that “Second Amendment people” should stop President Clinton from appointing Supreme Court justices.

    Or just run away, like you always do. Cowards.

  26. Phydeau says:


    Mr. Trump’s campaign events have grown increasingly vitriolic, with angry chants and jeers directed at Mrs. Clinton. People at his rallies have, with greater frequency, loudly called for violence against Mrs. Clinton — catcalls that Mr. Trump has generally let pass.

    What a disgusting person he is. He knows his supporters are calling for violence, and he inflames it with his “Second Amendment people” comments.

    • Phydeau says:

      From one of the comments on the above article:

      We’ve come a long way from 2008 when John McCain corrected a woman in the crowd who called Barack Obama an “Arab” and told her Obama was a decent man and she shouldn’t be afraid of him becoming President. We really have lowered the bar for what we expect from our Presidential candidates.

      Yes, I remember when Republicans were semi-decent people… how far the Republican party has fallen.

    • Phydeau says:

      From one of the comments on the above article:

      We’ve come a long way from 2008 when John McCain corrected a woman in the crowd who called Barack Obama an “Arab” and told her Obama was a decent man and she shouldn’t be afraid of him becoming President. We really have lowered the bar for what we expect from our Presidential candidates.

      Yes, I remember when Republicans were semi-decent people… how far the Republican party has fallen.

  27. Phydeau says:


    During the Republican convention, with its repeated chants about Clinton of “lock her up,” a U.S.-based columnist for Israel’s Haaretz newspaper, Chemi Shalev, wrote: “Like the extreme right in Israel, many Republicans conveniently ignore the fact that words can kill. There are enough people with a tendency for violence that cannot distinguish between political stagecraft and practical exhortations to rescue the country by any available means. If anyone has doubts, they could use a short session with Yigal Amir, Yitzhak Rabin’s assassin, who was inspired by the rabid rhetoric hurled at the Israeli prime minister in the wake of the Oslo accords.”

  28. Phydeau says:


    Run along boys… Everyone else has left. They don’t want to talk about Drumpf’s veiled threats any more than you do.

    • Tomas says:

      Are you threatening to leave this thread again? What is that the 3 rd time. GTFO already.

    • Phydeau says:

      You don’t get it, boys. Everyone else has figured out this is a losing debate. They’ve retreated to fight another day, and hope people don’t remember Trump suggesting violence against Clinton. You are the only two idjits left. Just give it up.

      • NewFormatSux says:

        Still continuing to ignore that speech like yours led a liberal to try and kill Donald Trump.

      • Tomas says:

        “John Hinkley endorses Hillary”.

        Hey now that he’s out of jail he could get a job as Hillarys Secretary of Assassination!

    • NewFormatSux says:

      So what is this veiled threat that you claim Trump made? I hear nothing about assassination or killing. Just ‘2nd Amendment People, maybe they can, I dunno.’

      • ± says:

        The problem with most D/R zealots is that their ability to discern truth disappears the moment their flavor comes under question.

        Either you are too stupid to know what Trump was heading towards, or you are an R/D zealot. Either way, you have lots of company in here.

        • NewFormatSux says:

          I must be too stupid. I’ve been told that the 2nd amendment has to do with hunting, not assassinations.

          I’ve also been told that Trump doesn’t understand how courts work or the Constitution.

          So how his comment could be interpreted as he meant to say kill Hillary, violates the two things I’ve been told.

          • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

            You aren’t “too stupid” for most activities… just too stupid to be worth reading. Yes…my last post before hitting the sack.

            I must be too stupid. /// OK–you persuaded me otherwise.

            I’ve been told that the 2nd amendment has to do with hunting, not assassinations. /// Ha, ha===just like Trump: disengenuous BS artist doesn’t “know” a damn thing but has a direct pipeline to every dumbshit in America… that he listens to. FYI: 2nd has ZERO to do with hunting. …. missing the NRA position totally, makes me think you are not a gun owner… just thoroughly nuts on every subject you look at.

            I’ve also been told that Trump doesn’t understand how courts work or the Constitution. /// What’s this “I’ve been told… meme you are relying so heavily on? Is it a purposeful sarcasm to mock Trump, or do you really have NO CLUE AT ALL: you’ve heard Trump directly yourself… form your opinions from THAT…. if you can.

            So how his comment could be interpreted as he meant to say kill Hillary, violates the two things I’ve been told. /// You are as stupid as the people you listen to. …. OR … you listen to people who are intentionally manipulating you as they have spotted you as a useful idiot.

            ………… but no one cares.

            Good night.

  29. Tomas says:

    Hillary Clinton strategist Bob Beckel called for WikiLeaks editor Julian Assange to be assassinated. #DNCLeak


    Awesome, we finally get a journalist who does there job for a change, and Killary goons want him dead.

    • Phydeau says:

      Assange openly hates Clinton. That’s not a journalist, that’s a guy with an axe to grind who’ll do anything to knock her down.

      But you’re a right-wing moron watching Fox “News”. You haven’t been exposed to real journalism in decades. So your confusion is understandable.

      (BTW you might want to brush up on your their/there/they’re so you don’t look like a complete moron)

      • Tomas says:

        Spelling corrections got it, so weak.

        No, actually Assange is the only thing I have seen come close to a real journalist in this election. Unlike the Clinton News Network, Fox, or the most awful MSNBC amateurs.

        Your problem is that you’re young and stupid and have grown up with the propaganda that poses for hard news these days.

        But you want him murdered.

      • Tomas says:

        Oh, sorry with the exception of Rev Al Sharpton. Now that is real award winning journalism son.

      • Phydeau says:

        Yes, I understand that Assange looks like a real journalist to you. And I understand that all the rest of the media look crooked, because they disagree with you. I understand you very well, because there are so many like you. And you’re all very noisy. 🙂

      • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

        Actually, I mostly go with Tomas on this one.

        THANK GOD, the journalist Gods like Mencken, Sinclair and all the other muckrakers, for Assange and Snowden.

        They are the high water marks of investigative journalism: NOT UNBIASED: they war against those in power. THE VERY ROLL assigned to the Fourth Estate in our Constitution.

        I haven’t notice the attitude of Assange as against Hillary any more pronounced than exposing all the politicians, those in power including the economic kind, for the liars and cheaters they are.

        Same with Beckel. Haven’t heard his death wish==>just the type of response a REAL JOURNALIST will engender. There is a big difference though between cogs in the private operation exchanging ideas, rants, complaints…and the LEADER OF A PARTY calling for the assassination of opposing leaders.

        ……………. don’t…. you …….. think?

  30. bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

    Gee, blog traffic is spiking. Phydeau making the valiant stand against the unhinged barking wingnut contingency.

    I think this election will be studied for years on a good luck at what happens when a party goes so deep for its shrinking base that it requires/engenders support for itself/Trump before country/sanity.

    And THAT is the link between populist race baiter Trump and Hitler. The same narcisstic personality pounding on “Make Germany Great Again” with Hitler throwing in little different than extra emphasis on racism and xenophobia.

    Just Look.

    Hang in the Phydeau. I look to your posts for a breath of reason…some independent LINKED thinking not restricted to the scope of a bumper sticker.

    I DO look forward to our continuing disagreements. Nice to tweak my own considerations.

    TRUMPSTERS: Its understandable why you hate Hillary, I’m not that far away from such a judgment myself……… but why do you Hate America???

    • McCullough says:

      “why do you Hate America”

      Thats a bumper sticker response Bob.

      • Phydeau says:

        Bumper stickers can be a nice summary of a long and complex argument, like Bobbo presented. As the complete text of the argument, they lack a certain something.

        • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

          Could not have said it better–which is why I enjoy disagreeing with you.

          What I woulda said was along the lines of I made my real argument and then restated it or encapsulated or made the money shot with an argument at the level I was hoping the WingNuts might understand.

          but like any good analyst: Phydeau knows ((at times…I mean…I’m only hooman and gots to keep my ego inflated!!)) his opponent and their arguments better than they do.

          In fact…he knows steaming piles of crap so well, I do have to wonder why he responds to Pedro AT ALL.

          ……………. BUT….. to each, our own.

          • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

            Pedro: I CHALLENGE YOU.

            Show us the depth of your kneejerk talking point gibberish:

            …………… What is wrong with the shooter’s father being in the audience?

            …………I…. don’t even expect a response… but for those two steps further away from the edge: what are you actually advocating? Shun the innocent if they have any/family connection to those who are criminally insane and were denied the help from a supported mental health service in our country….OTHER THAN==cops after the fact?

            Can you guys think at all, or is it kneejerk all the way down? ((Yes, another reference to the main fanatical imbecile group USA excells at))

          • Tomas says:

            “What is wrong with the shooter’s father being in the audience?”

            Its a clear security risk.

          • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

            How so?

          • ± says:

            **** effused bobbo with sycophantic fervor ****
            “…Could not have said it better–which is why I enjoy disagreeing with you. …”

            That makes (at least) twice you are sucking Phydeau’s ass in this thread and employing a pseudosyllogism no less this time.

            Fremdschämen is the only word which can apply as others observe.

          • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

            P/M: Your post reveals so much: recognizing any expertise or even just a well turned phrase in anyone else is the equivalence in your mind of sucking their ass?

            Ha, ha…… really does explain a lot.

            No analysis or counter argument at all…. just ab hominem. You guys are as boring as possible….at least a steaming pile of donkey crap as a bit of movement to it.

            I never have been embarrassed over or for posters of the RightWingNut variety. Closer…. would be “amazed” they can be so un and ill informed and yet still somehow scrape together enough money to buy a computer and get on line.

            All that energy…. and nothing to say.


        • Tomas says:

          As a potential target of revenge.

          • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

            Coincidentally, tv show reported that shooters father was a homophobe himself and had some kind of pro-Muslim attitudes…as if he could indeed be a threat to “any” public speaker in the area.

            I have a slight memory that the father regardless of his other views did NOT support his son’s actions and had tried unsuccessfully to get him help. More tv reporting on both sides of his threat potential and lack of personal assessment by the Hillary group.

            Who knows?

            With metal detectors to get into those speeches and lots of security…how much of a threat is anyone in such a crowd?

          • NewFormatSux says:

            Isn’t his dad pro-Taliban who ran for president of Afghanistan?

          • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

            Pro Taliban would not be surprising but Presidential candidate would be a stretch..while all things are possible.

            Just in that world of all possibilities…without a definite risk identified…I would not automatically assign “risk” to the parents/family members of mass murderers.

            Contra: I would assume most are ashamed and/or sad/combo for what their relative did.

            You know: a human recognition that we are all more the same than we are different.

    • NewFormatSux says:

      So if you think Trump is like Hitler, then do you endorse his assassination?

      • Phydeau says:

        It would be ironic indeed if the man stirring up all the hatred and bigotry and violence gets assassinated by someone he stirred up. Whoops!

        • Tomas says:

          The fat old serial killer can’t even stand up on her own. That’s what bad Karma will get you.


        • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

          Its actually a REAL concern. AMERICAN IS NO ONE===LEADING THE WORLD–in assassination of its political leaders by guns.

          What Trump is doing is adding to the mania of GUN CULTURE in America. Pukes stoked their base’s insanity until it produced Trump. Trump is stoking the further isolated base’s insanity until it, or someone in it, will act out as Trump as Publicly Advocated: Like Hitler: kill those who disagree. But the POINT here is that indeed Trump is motivating more than JUST his base==>all the gun nutters get motivated, and the Dumbo’s have quite a few too many of those as well.

          • Eddie G says:

            Actually, it was Stalin who killed those who didn’t agree. Quite a few of them. Hitler was small time by comparison.

          • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

            If you want to rank order the Killers as Politicians, the top of the list would be Mao, then Stalin, then Hitler, then a whole bunch in the few millions category, even a bigger bunch in the 100k’s group….then down to Clintons…then Trump.

            I mean, to be fair, Trump hasn’t even gotten into office yet. I don’t know if his business murders should even count..

        • NewFormatSux says:

          Yes, we’ve already established you don’t care that Trump was nearly assassinated at a rally.
          You only care if you can use it to attack Republicans(or non-Democrats standing in the way). I was asking bobbo.

          • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

            Poor old NFS: can’t tell support from disagreement.

            Forms an impression from some other half understood post, labels Bobbo as anti-Drumpf, and everything posted after that is Anti-Drumpf by definition.

            So…. the answer is: “No”—you don’t think.

          • NewFormatSux says:

            No clue what your post means, but I was responding to Phydeau.

            As for your NO, why not, if you think Trump is like Hitler? Surely you would have supported assassinating Hitler?
            Could it be that you are lying to make a comparison of Trump to Hitler?

          • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

            NFS–right you are. ((see how that works?==simple truth regardless who is saying it or on what subject?–try it.))

            I did take your post as a response to mine…but a quick repositioning shows everything I said is entirely applicable==just change the bobbo label to Phydeau and everything fits.

            Are you really that inflexible? ….. Funny to see so many right wingers here posting the “can’t understand” what is being said: if not on toilet paper…how can you be expected to engage the subject? Bwhahahaha!

            The Conservative Mindset in full shit-bloom on this thead: don’t understand, not thinking and going by labels and past formed unsupported conclusions…only reading until 3-4 words in a row ring a bell and then their kneejerk reponse is stimulated.

            …… steaming piles of dog shit………

            As to Drumpf being Hitler’s freaking doppleganger: its true. Just Look.

            Why not assassinate Drumpf…as I would Hitler? …. because as said about 3 times now: Trump is also unlike Hitler. I know… its hard having to identify similarities AND DIFFERENCES between two nearly identical issues…not including 80 years differences in time and all that suggests.

            So ……………. simple minded.


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