In my previous post I said Harvey wasn’t a global warming indicator because it just happened to stall in the wrong spot. However Irma is not only massive but intense. The kind of storm you get when there is global warming. This doesn’t prove anything by itself but bigger and stronger storms and global warming are linked. If someone calls this one global warming – I’m not going to argue against it.

We are putting CO2 into the air and that will cause some global warming.

The other issue – I wouldn’t want to be in a disaster with Trump as president. These storms are going to cut into his tax cuts for himself.

And – not caused by gay sex.



  1. NewFormatSux says:

    2005 had a category 4, and FOUR category 5 hurricanes. One year does not make a trend. It can only increase it a little, in this case, reduce the downtrend.

    By the way Marc, a certain post is overdue…

  2. Mr Diesel - Libertarian says:

    Sad that I still come here to read this crap.

  3. Mr.Winters says:

    Stronger more intense storms seen..Yes it’s global warming. Wait though. Trump the thump says it does not exist..so no it can’t be true.

  4. Mr Winters says:

    Stronger, More intense storms. Yes it is global warming. Wait though, Trump says it does not exist, so it can’t be true. Fake scientists.

  5. Mr Winters says:

    But Trump the bump says it is not true. More intense storms, more frequently. Fake news, and scientists.

  6. bobbo, are we Men of Science, or Devo? says:

    Marc: your obsession with faulty either/or thinking is a subtle self mocking……………..right?

    Harvey was not caused by AGW because it stalled? “What if” every expert in the world said: a storms track is caused by the placement and movements of pressure fronts which is a weather phenomenon driven by climate just like every other weather event/measurement?

    Seems to me, you are mixing and matching with all parts misunderstood. How about: without AGW….the High Pressure Zone that Harvey ran into and stalled, was caused by AGW? AGW is about more than Hurricane Intensity……..its about ALL ASPECTS OF CLIMATE…and the resulting weather.

    ALL ASPECTS.

    The analogy I like is how you account for a dripping faucet into a tub of water that ultimately overflows. Do you “blame” the first drop that falls onto the floor or do you appreciate as well the million drops that filled the tub to begin with? Without all the drops, the tub would not have overfilled. Hmmm…. doesn’t directly get to your error, but I’ll leave it as it demonstrates………something. Maybe how you assess causation?

    Storms drop rain based on lots of factors. Warmer air holds more water. Warmer water evaporates more water. AGW makes things warmer. Seems like a pretty close fit to me.

    AGW: affects ALL ELEMENTS OF WEATHER.

  7. Egon Ruuda says:

    And all this global warming has made temperature on global average to drop over the last 10 years. Damn you Al Gore!

    • bobbo, are we Men of Science, or Devo? says:

      I challenge you to find a single link that supports that.

      Even the deniers don’t go that far. Are you misrepresenting some observation of some area in the world is cooler?

      Silly Hooman. Head in the Freezer, thinks THE WHOLE WORLD is getting cooler.

      Retarded Hooman.

    • NewFormatSux says:

      That was true about ten years ago, but not now.

  8. bobbo, are we Men of Science, or Devo? says:

    I’m looking at the Weather forecast of Irma’s track to Florida. The “Spagetti Tracks” although i prefer the Zone of Uncertainty….. but if we apply the Science Denying Analysis to this: “They can’t even tell us if Irma is going to track to the East or the West of Florida. Obviously: Hurricane Irma does not exist.”

    for those slow on the pickup: demanding specificity in climate/weather models that IT CANNOT PROVIDE, does not invalidate the importance and validity of what science CAN tell us.

    Stop the insanity.

    • NewFormatSux says:

      Climate science, the only field that claims credibility on the basis that you listen to experts in other fields.

      • ± says:

        “Science” is too important a word to throw around glibly like that.

        • bobbo, are we Men of Science, or Devo? says:

          Amuse us: what is glib in the use of Climate Science?

          What is glib is calling the Science Deniers “critics.”

          Science: so much of it is “not proof” but rather only the best guess we can offer. If AGW weren’t going to destroy society, it would be fun watching idiots argue for their own destruction: Kinda like voting for Trump…… or any other third party candidate.

          Silly hoomans.

          • ± says:

            Check with an admin, your post got hooked onto the wrong thread somehow. I could be wrong tho. It could just be a bobbo bloviating tactic to get up word count.

            When your handler’s software can snoop responses to your posts instead of just the words in your posts, you are screwed. Thereafter you will have to live off of your pathetic social security check. Beats the nothing-at-all you’d have instead tho. That’s something.

      • bobbo, are we Men of Science, or Devo? says:

        NFS: thank you. That is what muddles up so many issues re AGW. ie: people don’t want to be taxed on carbon usage (eg: gas tax to encourage/support electric) so they claim the science is incorrect.

        Was your support intended? Ha, ha…….or just your inability to communicate a thought correctly?

  9. NewFormatSux says:

    CrowdStrike, the company that told us the Russians had hacked the DNC, was unable to stop the hacking for several weeks. Most of the e-mails are from AFTER they were hired. And the deluge of e-mails start the same day as Hillary’s e-mails in the archive. Hmmm…..

    https://medium.com/homefront-rising/dumbstruck-how-crowdstrike-conned-america-on-the-hack-of-the-dnc-ecfa522ff44f

  10. Chris says:

    How’s your cancer fight going?

    • Marc Perkel says:

      Oddly – I’m not sure. Last images were inconclusive. At worst I’m getting worse very slowly. At best I figured out how to cure cancer.

      • bobbo, are we Men of Science, or Devo? says:

        Cancer suffers from being a catch all phrase. Yes, its cancer, but there are many different causes, and therefore cures, for all the different cancers.

        Is it sharks that don’t get cancer? If not, then surely other species simply don’t get cancer…………… showing a genetic link that is subject to human manipulation. IIRC: some genetic conditions can be fixed by gene manipulation…. others require you to be born with the new set of genes????? ((No…. I think that is mostly wrong….. techniques use virii to “infect” a person with a new genome, don’t know how extensive such changes can be.))

        Shark men and women. Add some gills…..and who needs dry land?

        • Mr Diesel - Libertarian says:

          bobbo – “Shark men and women. Add some gills…..and who needs dry land?”

          You do if you want to avoid the giant patch of floating trash.

          • bobbo, are we Men of Science, or Devo? says:

            Catch the new article on particulate plastic in USA drinking water? If there is particulate plastic….. how much molecular plastic is there????

            Plastic: can mimic hormones…don’t know at what level they actually get utilized “as” a hormone after its transition due to size alone from plastic pollution.

            Just another trauma to cause who knows what diseases and infirmities in the population. Source of this plastic is mostly car tires and clothing. Not really any source that can be “managed.”

      • NewFormatSux says:

        Very appropriate answer for a global warming thread, conditions have a wide range. Did you get CT or XRay?

        • Marc Perkel says:

          I recently got a PET scan but it was inconclusive. But the fact that I’m still alive is an indicator my procedure I invented worked.

          • NewFormatSux says:

            How could a PET scan be inconclusive? I was under the impression that you had a large tumor, and now you can’t tell if it has gotten smaller or larger?

  11. OliverJax says:

    A strange form of black hole has been detected for the first time at the heart of the Milky Way.

    It’s a “mini-me” version of its neighbouring supermassive “cousin” – shedding light on how it formed.

    Looming in the middle of every galaxy, supermassive black holes weigh as much as ten billion suns – fuelling the birth of stars and deforming the fabric of space-time itself.

    But the mass of the newly identified black hole is only about 100,000 times that of our sun – placing it in the “intermediate sized” class.

    These were believed to exist but none had ever actually been identified – until now.

    Lying about 25,000 light years from Earth it could help answer one of the really big questions – how did the Milky Way evolve?

    Milky Way

    It was found hiding in a cloud of molecular gas by Japanese astronomers using the Alma (Atacama Large Millimeter/submillimeter Array) 16,400 feet above sea level in the Andes in northern Chile.

    The radio telescope’s high sensitivity and resolution enabled them to observe the cloud 195 light years from the Milky Way’s centre spot.

    It sheds fresh light on the most mysterious objects in the universe. Uncovering their secrets is the ‘Holy Grail’ of astronomy.

    Night Sky

    Recent research has shown supermassive black holes are essential to the creation of galaxies, stars – and even life itself.

    Each one is about half a per cent of the host galaxy’s size – which indicates they are the driving force behind their evolution.

    The finding published in Nature Astronomy provides important insights into how supermassive black holes like the one at the very centre of our galaxy were created.

    Although it is well established they reside in seemingly all galaxies we do not know how they get so enormous.

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    This is despite them appearing to have been in place when the universe was comparatively young – only a few hundred million years old.

    Now the mystery could be solved by the identification of the intermediate-type black hole – something astrophysicists suspected were around but for which there have been only tentative candidates in the past.

    It’s believed they could be the seeds of their more massive counterparts – merging together to form a gigantic one. intermediate black holes might simply turn out to be their progenitors.

    It’s difficult to find black holes – because they are completely black. But in some cases they cause effects which can be seen.

    A black hole is a region of space that has such an extremely powerful gravitational field that it absorbs all the light that passes near it and reflects none.

    Professor Tomoharu Oka and colleagues used computer simulations to show the high velocity motion, or kinematics, of the gas could only be explained by an intermediate black ole conceal ed in its midst.

    They also found the emission from this cloud closely resembles a scaled-down version of the Milky Way’s quiescent supermassive black hole.

    Astrophysicists have suspected an intermediate class of black hole might exist – with masses between a hundred and several hundred thousand times that of the Sun.

    But such black holes had not previously been reliably detected and their existence has been fiercely debated among the astronomical community.

    Prof Oka, of Keio University in Japan said it is widely accepted black holes with masses greater than a million solar masses lurk at the centres of massive galaxies, but their origins remain unknown.

    He said: “One possible scenario is intermediate-mass black holes (IMBHs) – which are formed by the runaway coalescence of stars in young compact star clusters – merge at the centre of a galaxy to form a supermassive black hole.

    “Although many candidates for IMBHs have been proposed none is accepted as definitive. Recently we discovered a peculiar molecular cloud near the centre of our Milky Way galaxy.

    “Based on the careful analysis of gas kinematics we concluded a compact object with a mass of about 100,000 solar masses is lurking in this cloud.”

    Prof Oka said it suggests “this massive object is an inactive IMBH which is not currently accreting matter.”

    Theoretical studies have predicted 100 million to one billion lack holes should exist in the Milky Way – but only 60 or so have been identified through observations so far.

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    Despite their popularity both in real science and science fiction the concept of a black hole has only been around for a hundred years – as predicted by Albert Einstein. The term itself did not come into use until 1967, and it was just 46 years ago that the first one was identified.

    Prof Oka said: “Further detection of such compact high-velocity features in various environments may increase the number of non-luminous black hole candid ate and thereby increase targets to search for evidential proof of general relativity.

    “This would make a considerable contribution to the progress of modern physics.”

    • ± says:

      I didn’t respond to this because freedom of speech exists in the microcosm of the handlers. 🤐 🤢 😷

      • ± says:

        I forgot to add, that if I was McCullough, I would be gone for good from being connected to this site. No excuses. There has to be better shit to do than supporting lies if you’re not a liberal.

        When I retire, no one one could/will ever possibly attach my life to wanton lies.

  12. Bus Rush 2 says:

    I am seriously not sure about this.

  13. Bus Rush 2 says:

    Seriously something make me feel that this is not something that will work.

  14. Mr Anderson says:

    While there is scientific evidence of climate change, there is no scientific evidence of good politicians.

    • bobbo, are we Men of Science, or Devo? says:

      No info on what they spend their money on. Their mission statement has nothing to do with disaster relief.

      Most charities………….. are frauds.

      …………………………………………………… even the very good ones.

      Money does that to people.

      I RESPECT: the voluntarily rescue boaters…. cajun and texan and everyone else. Little else.

        • NewFormatSux says:

          How reliable can this site be if they gave Clinton Foundation 4 stars?

          • bobbo, are we Men of Science, or Devo? says:

            A skillful fraudster will always have one or more clean operations they can point to to bring in the rubes.

            ……..or……..yes, even criminals can run a clean charity……….

            or………..I can’t read anything about the Clintons. It upsets my stomach.

          • NewFormatSux says:

            Clinton Foundation was the primary focus of their moneymaking. Half of the money in stays on as assets not yet distributed. This methodology is incomplete that they couldn’t see it.

      • Hmeyers says:

        Fair point. I don’t trust hardly any charities.

        I briefly was a United Way “key worker” — a volunteer to manage charity collections for employees where I was working.

        After that, I have never given money to a charity.

        It was an appalling experience.

        • Hmeyers says:

          The experience and training was mostly how to pressure employees to donate as much money as possible.

          And the emphasis was not much on what good was being done, but manipulate through telling half-truths.

          I was somewhat startled by how those people could live with themselves.

          • bobbo, are we Men of Science, or Devo? says:

            I’ve had experiences much the same.

            Money does corrupt. One of the worst: March of Dimes.

            Sick Kiddies or Veterans/Movie Stars/Overpaid political appointees as Directors………….and it can’t be good. I’ll add Red Cross…..while they do good work, you gotta swallow the BS to get there.

          • NewFormatSux says:

            They don’t allow Red Star of David, but allow Red Crescent. I stay away from formal Jew hatred.

  15. bobbo, are we Men of Science, or Devo? says:

    Ha, ha………….Rush Limbaugh. Another Science Denier:

    ““When it comes to a hurricane bearing down on South Florida, I’m the go-to guy,” Limbaugh said, and then spent the next 24 minutes dispensing hurricane advice that no meteorologist or federal agency would likely dare utter.” //// IE==its all exaggerated to sell product.

    You couldn’t be more stupid than this. Even this OP only comes close.

    https://washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2017/09/06/rush-limbaughs-hurricane-survival-guide-stop-buying-water-and-dont-listen-to-the-news/?utm_term=.f3673970c57e

    • Hmeyers says:

      Did you listen to the audio or just take the Washington Post’s word on it because the article says something you would like to agree with?

      I generally do not trust biased sources to report honestly and fairly about controversial personalities on the other side of the spectrum.

      They like to cherry pick quotes or quote out of context to paint a picture.

      • bobbo, are we Men of Science, or Devo? says:

        I read a transcript on another blog then found a link that on quick scan said much the same thing.

        Posting Links. Imagine that????

    • Hmeyers says:

      Read a bit of the article.

      What is the advantage of buying bottled water over storing water via tap water?

      San Francisco is trying to eliminate bottled water in favor of tap water (although for environmental reasons).

      Do bottled water companies try to profiteer from hurricanes?

      I would bet they try. Why not sell overpriced water in a bottle in the highest volumes possible?

      • bobbo, are we Men of Science, or Devo? says:

        Fraud/gouging/profit maximization permeates our society. I can guess your point…………….. so what?

    • Hmeyers says:

      Also .. watch out.

      Washington Post is owned by Amazon.

      Amazon did not buy the Washington Post because they want to be in the news business.

      Amazon specifically owns the Washington Post to influence politicians in Washington DC.

      I trust Amazon as much as I trust Facebook or “Do no evil” Google (a slogan Google dropped years ago).

      • bobbo, are we Men of Science, or Devo? says:

        Again…read just above. You appear to have difficulty contemplating two different ideas with minimum overlap.

        I agree its a skill…… but one I thought was easy to master.

        • NewFormatSux says:

          It’s easy to think you’ve mastered it…

          • bobbo, are we Men of Science, or Devo? says:

            Well………….you have mastered mindless nit-picking for no purpose at all.

            We all master what we can.

    • Hmeyers says:

      Last thing:

      Historical probability of a major hurricane hitting Florida is 21%

      So 4 out of 5 times, major hurricanes don’t hit Florida and veer off.

      Doesn’t mean this one won’t. But if you go with the odds, if you bet money on every major hurricane missing Florida you’d make a lot of money.

      • bobbo, are we Men of Science, or Devo? says:

        ….gee HM: thats quite a stupid bet.

        The degree of predictability increases as the event approaches.

        Irma==near 100%

        J==what? lets give it 50%

        K==just now forming–30%

        You don’t appear to know how to “bet” at all.

  16. Mr Diesel - Libertarian says:

    Next up, the bullshit artists will blame the huge earthquake on AGW.

    Go!

  17. NewFormatSux says:

    When you tell so many lies to keep people scared, they start to notice.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/09/07/the-making-of-a-climate-skeptic-at-university/

  18. omegaproject says:

    Jupiter’s red spot is AGW too

    • ± says:

      The red spot is to be avoided. I do it with implacable elan.

      • See Spot Run says:

        Knew a girl with red spots. Had the measles.

        Avoided her with implacable elan.

    • Mr Diesel - Libertarian says:

      I’m sure bobbo will blame Trump for the red spot.

      • bobbo, are we Men of Science, or Devo? says:

        Trump “IS” the red spot.

        Mind the Gap.

        • jpfitz says:

          Wrong, Trump”IS” the Orange minuscule speck of intelligence.

          • ± says:

            er … you must be one of those slobbering, rabid, anti-Trumpers. I know others like you, but they haven’t figured out how to channel their pathology yet. Please contact me and I’ll put you in touch with them.

  19. NewFormatSux says:

    Uh oh, now Team Hillary is saying that BERNIE colluded with Russia!

    • Ah_Yea says:

      For Killary, EVERYONE colluded with Russia.

      Comey, Trump, Bernie, you name it.

      It’s wasn’t my fault!

      The words of an adult child.

  20. jpfitz says:

    Marc, if you have any info on Uncle Dave, how he weathered the storm? I’ve been thinking of good ole Uncle Dave.

    How about you Marc? How are you holding up?

  21. NewFormatSux says:

    2005-06: Global warming will produce more and stronger hurricanes.

    2007:

    2008:

    2009:

    2010:

    2011:

    2012:

    2013:

    2014:

    2015:

    2016:

    2017: Told ya so!

    • ± says:

      It’s sickening how liberals are gleefully lapping up this hurricane season for the reason you pointed out.

      • jpfitz says:

        I think you’re confusing lapping with sensitivity. Some are drawn to water, especially when fury is released by nature, you may be floating sundries on an air-mattress. Hurricanes happen, I can’t prove…I can’t convince even myself, that humans are responsible for weather. Our weather records are the genesis as far as wind speeds measured.

        Earths weather is amazing, the energy used to create giant masses of air spinning, scary are the smaller tightly spinning air masses.

        I get hurricanes here too, but, the hurricanes continue to come when the temps drop, breeding blizzards.

      • Ah_Yea says:

        Looks like the scare mongers were wrong again. Irma 7th largest storm, not first, second, or third.

        wattsupwiththat.com/2017/09/10/hurricane-expert-klotzbach-irma-at-landfall-comes-in-7th-behind-1935-labor-day-storm/

    • bobbo, are we Men of Science, or Devo? says:

      Add the Pacific Ocean Record breaking hurricanes and typhoons…………………….and you won’t be lying.

      “World Climate” ………… is more than what Texans notice.

      Silly Hooman.

  22. Premature E-Proclamation says:

    We are but 24-hour fruit flies!

  23. Premature E-Proclamation says:

    Like Hillary, some on this blog suffer from Cognitive Distortion:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_distortion

  24. bobbo, are we Men of Science, or Devo? says:

    I’m finding the aftermath coverage very interesting. Communities/islands “destroyed” revealing the “risk” of building where Mother Nature takes priority.

    Ha, ha…….I “almost” moved to Marathon Key 2 years ago. I decided not to given the threat of hurricanes. I suppose I could have still rented but I was all for the location. Great location on the very end of a pier. I’m sure that location is gone now.

    The infrastructure of the Keys is gone. Can it even be rebuilt to 1000 year storm surge standards??? should it be left as a recreational area or for the Rich with Concrete only?

    Same question for the entire peninsula of Florida… Texas coast, etc………or will it be back to business as usual???? Whats different this time is the lack of ignorance. I think we NOW KNOW: its going to happen again. Not the brain dead analysis, unthinking assumptions of before that it was an act of god and something to put up with and overcome.

    Can we accept any limits of reality?

  25. AnntLit says:

    1 – Notwithstanding coming from a family with a strong Catholic background, [url=http://monet-paintings.org/]Claude Monet[/url] denounced the church later in his life and became an atheist.
    2 – He loved the Houses of Parliament in London so much that he painted the exact unvaried scene four times upward of the headway of four years.
    3 – His mentor was Eugene Boudin, unified of the from the word go French vista painters to picture outdoors.

  26. CAP says:

    Climate Terrorists don’t want to tell you about the large CME X-flares from the sun recently causing a lot of the extreme weather anomalies, earthquakes included. Our sun is causing this and all planets solar system wide to increase in temperature. Or are they driving too many SUVs on those planets too??

    As for Harvey “stalling” over Texas you may want to look at this here at the 6:30 mark for some strange happenings.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHXYE7TLkCM

    Just know Mr. Gore is going to make a shit ton of money on the climate legislation alone as he is a partner in the law firm that will draft these laws surely no conflict of interest there.

    I can’t remember how I stumbled across this blog one day but I do check it from time to time as there are some interesting topics. I hope your cancer is getting better. With all due respect to the frequenters of this site you all need to wake up to the fact that left wing and right wing all goes to the same bird, enough of the divide and conquer tactics that is how they rule. This was a problem long before trump came into the picture. As George Carlin said, “It’s a big club…and you ain’t in it.”

    • Mccullough says:

      Im on st john went thru irma. Trying to get out does anyone know a carter pilot who can take a large dog and 2 cats. Can only check messages once a day


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