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This “White House Advisor” has always been all over the media condemning everyone — especially gays — while praising the Lord.
Toronto Daily News – Church Leader Quits After Gay Sex, Meth Claims – US evangelist accused of using male prostitute services — Anyone who studies American history knew this sort of thing was coming. Hypocrisy reigns. As a friend of mine likes to say, “Only sinners go to church.” If this is nothing more than a smear campaign I’d say it was risky since this guy runs in some powerful circles. Let’s watch this unfold. If all this is actually orchestrated by the Democrats, then it looks as if they’ve finally found a Karl Rove rival. Who is it?
Pastor Ted Haggard, the president of the American Association of Evangelicals, has resigned due to allegations of engaging in homosexual intercourse with a prostitute.
Ted Haggard, who runs one of the largest churches in the US and regularly consults the White House on policy matters, had been paying a male prostitute to have sex with him about once a month for the past three years, a man who claims to be the male escort told a Denver radio station
Mike Jones, a male escort, alleged that Haggard, whom he knew as “Art”, paid for sex with him during trysts which had been taking place between them on an almost monthly basis over the course of the previous three years.
Further, Jones said Haggard used methamphetamine before their sexual encounters to heighten his experience.
When did the Republicans get so gay? From what I can tell this is the guy pushing evangelical religion into the Air Force Academy. Now he’s gay? What gives?
related links:
Rocky Mountain News Coverage
CNN Discussion
Click on CNN video interview with Haggard — He denies everything: says he is happily married.
Ted Haggard Homepage
Harper’s Article on America’s Most Powerful Megachurch
Religious Bullying at the Air Force Academy
More on Air Force Academy
Interview with Jones About Haggard who Apparently called himself “Art.”
Note of irony. Here’s an article where Haggard is preaching about how religion belongs in politics. Be careful what you wish for.
Update for all the doubters!: CNN interviewed Ted Haggard and he admits calling Mike Jones for a “massage” and to “buy meth.”
Yet another update:
For those who worry about anyone “judging” Pastor Ted — his church just fired him. Here’s the .pdf of its press release.
Last update, we promise!: Haggard admits being “guilty of sexual immorality” and stated, “I am a deceiver and a liar.”
Haggard is a graduate from Oral Roberts University.
lol, Christians.
It doesn’t seem to matter what religion, they get big, and they decay from within. Religion is so stupid.
With his recent admissions I wonder if this will affect conservative Christian turnout in the upcoming elections?
He would resign to keep any investigation from derailing the organizations agenda. I do wonder if the individual accused was a minority whether or not they would so quick to convict him without hearing any of the evidence.
Yes, this could be a setup. It wouldn’t be the first time and other leftist organization spend a lot of their time hating anyone that’s espouses Christian ideas, so it’s possible that they set this up or it could be the truth. Note Dvorak’s point at the end about politics. The more troubling thing is that in a error of Photoshop pictures and Internet lies and half-truths so many people want to believe the worst.
It’s sad if it’s true, but then everyone is a sinner and human kind is weak of flesh. I haven’t heard his name either, but there’s no reason why I would. Hopefully his marriage will come through this ok. Is Haggard supposed to be a Republican is just assumed that any Christian is automatically assumed to not be a Democrat. Makes me wonder what the Democrats stand for if everyone assumes a Christian is automatically against Democrat views?
Hey Dvorak, I thought you didn’t believe everything put out by the media why this, this time? Is this what you’re hoping for? Why, isn’t there enough crank in you to question the ‘authorities’ about this news story?
#24 RGB
He is not evil because he is a homosexual. He is evil because he is a hypocrite.
#4 Scott, hey are you hitting on me?
traaxx — you poor, hopeful, True Believer. When you get home tonight, turn on the news. Fox probably won’t carry the interviews; but, Haggard has been on, admitting more and more — trying to hide more and more.
And Jones is a riot. Asked if his disclosure is political — he said, “You’re damned right. I learned what a hypocrite this client is over the last six months. Here he is — parading around condemning gay rights and gay marriage — but, illicit gay sex behind his wife’s back is OK.”
With a question on Gay Rights on the Colorado ballot, he figured it was time to speak out. At least he has the courage of his convictions — unlike our friendly neighborhood religious bigots.
Traxx, what’s your point?
#19: Best comment I’ve read anywhere on any story in a while!
It seems religious group leaders have some underground society that practices gay sex, drugs, child pornography, homosexuality, tax evasion, page molestation and bribery convictions.
They are one busy bunch! What’s amazing is they STILL get Bush to pander to them. Just what is in that holy water?
traxx is flustered and embarrassed because he knows this guy is what most Republicans represent and has been caught being a hypocrite. most Republicans are hypocrites.
My guess traxx is probably repressed and is now feeling a little less secure about all his secret desires.
Fact: Haggard is a Republican
Fact: He has admitted to purchasing meth for his own use.
Has he had gay sex? Well? we will see won’t we. lol I must suck for the Republicans knowing that Democrats now have people on their side that will find things out for them and spill it at just the right moment. To all Republicans let me say you have made the largest and well known of tactical errors. You have underestimated you opponent.
Oh another Few
Fact: He got a massage from a male prostitute.
Fact: he lied about knowing the guy then admitted to knowing him.
Fact: He almost lied about the meth. When asked “Who he bought the meth for?” he initially replied “no one” then quickly admitted it was for him but he never used it.
Yeah right! I know all sorts of people that do that. LOL!!!!!
Why are so many republicans hypocritical sado masochistic homosexual ass tweaking pedophile drug users?
One thing is certain. Everything is being overstated and exaggerated.
And “that’s the way it is”.
Yep, looks bad for him. We do like our evangelists squeaky clean and rightly so. Just proves my stand: people, institutions, churches, governments, etc. will always disappoint us and let us down.
Get over it and deal with it.
http://www.denverpost.com/ci_4597552
Gay prostitute fails lie detector test. Who knew?
Fact: Ted Haggard is (was) a weekly adviser to President Bush.
syngensmyth
Hey their is a reason Lie detectors are not admissible in court………THEY DONT WORK!!!!!!
I bet you believe fingerprint anylasis is a science too? Guess what it isn’t!
Haggard has admitted to some of the charges already. So quit your counter attack plan. Iit has already failed.
The person giving the lie-detector test said they needed to re-test. I would assume that this joker is under a lot of stress and that screws up such tests.
It will be too late for the election cycle one way or the other.
I think Eidard was joking about his explanation. There’s always going to be hypocrites, since people aren’t perfect. That doesn’t make it a reason to throw out all morality.
From his mouth to God’s ear, Uh, well, maybe not any more. What to do? What to do?
#48 Mr Dvorak
Oh rest assured there will be an admission from Haggard before then.
I just hope this will be a real dead week end so no news will squeeze this Gem
As usual, Evangelic followers are HUGE imbeciles; chances are that he will kneel, weep like a little girl and claim the devil possesed him and then he will go into “rehab.”
And we all know how much americans love people who claim that they have rehabilitated so he will be pardoned by his followers and proceed as if nothing has ever happened.
A man might be a addict, or an adulterer, or a homosexual, and still be a Christian. Christ himself saved an adulteress, and healed the lover of the apparently gay centurion (“male house slave” was merely a PC way of having a gay lover in the Roman world). But the one group I don’t recall him assisting or publicly forgiving (prior to the cross, and that was just how swell a guy he was) were the Pharisees. These men, who were essentially lawyers and judges of the law, were holding the Jewish people to a strict standard that arose from their interpretation of scripture, while simultaneously violating this standard themselves. I must say that I find it a great irony that our modern Pharisees, who would force us to live by their (double) standard if given an opportunity, now go about calling themselves Christians. They are the same in character, however; eager to hang the scapegoat, first to shake the hand of power (no matter how crusted with dried blood), last to listen to wisdom and reason. Jesus said that “Men are judged by the standard they judge others by.” As such, I am very concerned for Haggart, as I am certain that if he does not repent of his hypocrisy, there is only one possible destination for him.
It is worth remembering that the Pharisees were whipping up anti-Roman sentiment to further their political power at the same time they were were in bed with the Romans. The result, in the end, was a foolish violent rebellion and the destruction of the holy city. If the American people don’t rid ourselves of these men soon, we may end up in the same state.
#47 Yes, “lie detectors” dont actually detect lies. And reading polygraph results is a highly subjective business – a matter of degree, rather than yes or no. but fingerprints … that is either yes or no, although there are different standards for a “match.”
Anyway. Set yourselves up as the moral arbiters for the nation and you are going to be held to the standard and provoke much glee when you don’t measure up.
Check out the video of Haggard:
“Only sinners go to church” An exactly true statement, since we all are sinners….
#54. wasn’t Jesus the toughest on the “hypocrites”? Everyone else gets a “go and sin no further,” but we are strictly abjured from hypocracy.
I wonder if Haggard gets his usual spot on the weekend conference call with Bush, Rove and Cheney?
Wouldn’t you love to hear a speakerphone recording of that conversation? Too bad Lenny Bruce isn’t alive when you need him.
#54
I’m having a little trouble getting what you’re saying. It’s such a confusing mess when you mix biblical messages and normal language.
Anyway, I take it that anyone can be “saved” or pardoned or forgiven regardless what he might have done. As long as he does the right mumbo jumbo as required by his fellow christians or bible.
Or else you say “there is only one possible destination for him”. May I ask what this “destination” is?
I’m guessing Phoenix.