Cannot make up mind.
In Carter-Bush Duel, Dual Retreats – washingtonpost.com — Here is your classic Democrat in action. He says what he means then weasels out of it for whatever reason. Maybe he doesn’t want to get beat up or he thinks he is supporting the troops or whatever. If he thinks Bush is the worst in history, so what? Why say it then back off like this?
Carter was actually asked, “You talked about this war and how you believe its wrong: Which president was worse, George W. Bush or Richard Nixon?” according to an audio posted on the newspapers Web site. “I think as far as the adverse impact on the nation around the world, this administration has been the worst in history,” Carter replied. “The overt reversal of Americas basic values as expressed by previous administrations, including George H.W. Bush and Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon and others, has been the most disturbing to me.”
John,
When you get beat up everyday by pinheads for speaking the truth it makes one circumspect. But yeah you are probably right. Democrats should speak with more conviction. And the party is getting better about that. But take someone like Carter who has been raked across the coals for speaking the truth. He was viciously attacked as an anti-semite for simply trying to bring some balance to media coverage of the Israel-Palestine conflict. And he has done more than most in trying to bring stability to that region.
Maybe Carter got invited on a hunting trip with Cheney.
‘Do One Brave Thing Today….then run like hell!’
It’s worse than “backing off.” He lied about what he said, claiming the reporter misquoted him. Then the reporter released the recording of Carter saying the EXACT words he claimed were misquoted.
So Carter is a weasel and a liar. He tried to blame the reporter and destroy the man’s reputation.
You Bush apologists are like scientologists with all your character assassination, attack the attacker BS. Why is Carter even the story here? It is quite objective that Bush Jr is one of the worst presidents in American history. The story should be what is it about the current administration that an ex president would even bother making such a comment. Everybody is saying it, even people in the Republican party will admit that he is another Hoover.
Carter had a moment of candor and then realized that he perhaps was a bit too frank. Big deal. The media and Dvorak are all hyping this up and by extension letting Bush play the “bigger” man. What a farce. This is the same guy who employs Karl Rove, and willful let the swiftboat bs happen under his watch. He cannot be forgiven for that. And he deserves endless scorn.
I’m not bitter or anything. 🙂
When you take into account his own record, anything Carter would have to say about a good Presidency would have about as much credibility as advice on diet or grooming from Michael Moore.
#6 – Carter is the story here, because the post is about what Carter recorded saying.
Why would anyone be surprised that he’s backing down now? This is what liberals politicians do. They calibrate their comments to their audience in hopes of getting more votes, money, etc. They don’t usually operate off a set of actual beliefs.
Carter was always a pussy.
This is what liberals politicians do.
Seems like I hear that exact phrase on the radio every time I listen to that racist Limbaugh clown.
He’s another Hoover? One President brought on the Great Depression. The other saw an increase in the US economy larger than the combined economies of China and India.
#11.
Mike where do you learn your history? Hoover presided over the Great Depression, and while he unfairly gets the rap for it usually, he did nothing useful to get us out of it.
Ah, truth is such an evasive thing, isn’t it? For instance, look at Malren’s comment #4. Malren claims that Carter specifically said he was “misquoted,” which makes Carter a liar who is attempting to destroy a reporter’s reputation. Yet when you read the Washington Post article, the author writes only that Carter’s claim was that his remarks were “careless or misinterpreted,” quite different from a misquote. If the article is correct, Carter is not blaming the reporter at all.
So is your claim true, Malren? Did Carter really say he was misquoted? I’d hate to think you were lying in order to further destroy Carter’s reputation.
As usual, the biggest question is missed. What has Carter so afraid to tell the obvious truth? Why lie to retract something that is so obvious to anyone not drunk on the Kool-Aid?
Tell me, Mr. Carter; what are you so afraid of?
President Carter was not stating an obvious truth, he was stating his opinion and it is so obviously wrong he had to back track to try and save what little face he has garnered from hammering nails for habitat for humanity.
Carter is single handedly responsible for the middle east we have to day .If the man had stood for the Shaw (yea he was corrupt but he was obviously the lesser of the two evils ) or just gotten our hostages out with a show of force, the world would not have had to endure the past 20+years of radical Islam(it got it foot hold in Iran with the full power of a govt behind it )
Carter took social security out of the lock box and set it up for the bankruptcy is it heading for
Carter had an economy so bad a new word had to be invented to describe it “STAGFLATION”. unemployment in high teens ,interest rates in the low 20% and Jimmy Carter doing nothing but but asking nicely for the return of our hostages
Carter gave away the single most strategic waterway on earth (one that we built and payed for) that is now run by the communist Chines
Now all you liberal Bush haters seem to have a very short memory about just how bad things can be
Bush has had 6 years of continual growth in the economy(setting all time records for the dow and nasdac ) unemployment is lower than the lowest in the Clinton adminsitration , the govt took in more money last month from taxes than it has in its history( but only the rich are getting richer and those tax breaks for only for the rich ) There has not been another attack on American soil since 9/11 (they tried )
President Bush has run the war in Iraq very poorly, but you have to admit the press has played a huge role in the in the American publics dismay in the war ( their are many thing things going great ,we are building schools restoring power (gone since the first gulf war) and many areas like the Kurdish north and Basra to the south don’t even need a military presence any more, because they are stable and functioning .How many times has any news been about how well the Kurdish north is doing or that Basra has bustling economy NEVER the new only leads with Sunni triangle and its problems so everyone thinks the whole country is in a civil war and is a cesspool for violence and it is not.
Isn’t it obvious? The Democrats are just as corrupt as the Republicans. Remember, the same Democrats voted for the Patriot Act.
So he’s saying, in order of ineptitude…
1. Himself
2. Bush
3. Nixon
I’d agree with that.
Welcome to the weasle zone which according to Dilbert is the “Weasel Zone — the giant gray area between good moral behavior and outright criminality. It’s where your coworkers, bosses, salespeople, CEOs, human resource executives, hotel clerks, home repair people, and loved ones reside.” Not to mention, Jimmy C.
#15 Pmitchell, a quick check of historical unemployment figures from the official “Economic Report of the President” shows the magnitude of your misstatement of fact. Although you claim that unemployment under Carter ran in the “high teens,” the figures show that during the entirety of Carter’s term, the rate actually remained below 8%. It was on the rise as he left office, and continued to rise during the early part of Reagan’s term, but even then it peaked below 10%. Were any drugs involved in your hallucination, or do you make stuff like this up when you’re straight?
Seriously, though, now I know you’re a true politician. How could I ever have doubted your fitness for the congressional office you’re seeking?
This spite really highlight the difference between liberals vs conservatives.
The liberal (Carter) criticizes Bush’s foreign policies and the conservative (the White House) responds with an ad hominem attack.
Instead of calling Carter “irrelevant” I’d like to hear which foreign policy accomplishments elevate Bush above being the worst in history.
#15 – I’ll bet that Kool-Aid goes down real smooth….
I like how Fox News made this one of their top stories, yesterday.
All the crap going on in the world right now, and feigning outrage at Carter’s comment is the top story?
Sad.
PMitchell, how does the devaluation of the dollar figure into you scenario, what is it worth now? What about the unemployed, dont they drop off the rolls and stop being counted after 6 months? What district are you running in, I want to move there just so I can vote your stupid ass out.
#21 Mmm, it’s grape flavored!
Gary, do you have access to Google? Rather than accuse me of lying, why not…and here’s a crazy thought – check first? Or, and here’s another totally mental suggestion, see if there is more than one version of a news story, perhaps one with more detail?
I know. I expect far, far too much from you.
#25 Malren, first of all, I didn’t make it an outright accusation because I was allowing for the unlikely possibility that it could be true, and I asked you if it was true, nothing more. Second of all, I checked three major, reliable sources — the Washington Post, the New York Times, and the Chicago Tribune. All three papers quoted the same phrase, “careless or misinterpreted,” and made no reference to any use of the word “misquote” as you alleged in your attack of Carter. So let me knock the ball back into your court, so you can prove that you had a reliable enough source for you to accuse Carter of lying and trying to destroy a reporter’s reputation. Are you up to the task, or did you simply hear that word in your head?
To be honest, I think you probably are lying, but I certainly can’t prove that no reliable journalist printed that story. Neither can I find any evidence so far that you’re telling the truth.
http://www2.arkansasonline.com/news/2007/may/19/carter-calls-bush-administration-worst-ever/
I’ll await your apology.
Another:
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003588283
One last thing: In this NYT piece you partially quote, Carter said, and I quote, that he was:
That is, flat out, no doubt about it, a lie.
#27, #28 Malren… seriously, did you not understand the question? I searched both of those articles, and no report that Carter claimed to be “misquoted” by the journalist is there. That was your very specific accusation of him, so I’m still awaiting evidence that you’re telling the truth.
Did you simply hear that word in your head?
#29, when Carter said he’s “not talking personally about any president,” it sounds like he’s trying hard to make the distinction between his criticism of administration policies, and a personal attack on the character of the president who sets those policies, as many people might interpret his remarks to imply.