Much of the blogosphere thinks Coulter is a guy as shown by this Internet pic. We think she is a money-making robot. There is no sign of a human heart.
Does Ann Coulter Get Away With It Because Shes A Woman? — I saw the Ann Coulter nervous twitch when she was confronted by Elizabeth Edwards. She was twitching because she sensed the money coming in. If you like this sort of skunks versus skunks contest, this is a beaut. I tuned into right wing radio, as usual, to see how this was being handled and it was pretty lame with most siding with Coulter over her mocking the death of the Edwards’ son with the rationale that John Edwards should be complaining not the wife. Cripes!
Twitching in her seat, Coulter nevertheless put on her “bring it” front. Edwards told Coulter that she’d welcome her input on the issues, but that she needed to stop the personal attacks on her husband, and she also needed to quit talking about her deceased son. In the recent past, Coulter called John Edwards a “fag” and remarked that he was so shallow and so willing to advance his presidential candidacy that he had placed a bumper sticker on the back of his car that read, “[a]sk me about my dead son”.
Coulter came back with the feeble argument that the attacks were ultimately justified as the Edwards campaign was now using Coulter’s prior statements about Edwards as a fundraising prompt. What better to compel the generosity of the left than Ann Coulter? A Coulter sycophant lurking in Hardball’s “special outdoor audience” that was gathered to get a glimpse of their queen asked, “[w]hy isn’t John Edwards making this call?” Elizabeth Edwards responded that it was she who was the mother of the boy who died, and that defending her husband and her child’s memory was basically on her. This is a concept that Coulter probably does not grasp at all.
Coulter: “So? Blow me!”
52 & 54–Yes debunked. Even the truncated bit gives the clue. “I’ve learned my lesson.” You can disagree with the logic but she drew a comparison to Bill Maher saying it was too bad Cheney had not been killed in a terrorist attack and there was no outrage about it.==
Cant you tell you’re being pimped when one ONE SENTENCE is quoted? Kinda “obvious!” One Sentence quotes are ALWAYS manipulative.
I can’t find a fuller clip in the 30 minutes I just spent googling. Debunked because I have seen several talk shows show the entire segment . A fuller transcript of the comment is below from http://tinyurl.com/2o9o2d ::
“Addressing her smear of Edwards on the June 25 edition of Good Morning America, Coulter stated that she “wouldn’t insult gays by comparing them to John Edwards.” Coulter continued: “Now, that would be mean. But about the same time — you know — [HBO host] Bill Maher was not joking and saying he wished [Vice President] Dick Cheney had been killed in a terrorist attack. So I’ve learned my lesson. If I’m going to say anything about John Edwards in the future, I’ll just wish he had been killed in a terrorist assassination plot.”
I came across the following article while doing the above search that finds media bias at the core of the Coulter coverage, its not too long:
http://tinyurl.com/34tgwm
53–Yes, you are right, apologists will do that, but how do you know when your leg is actually being pulled?
57–Incredible review. I woke up thinking I owed you an apology for post 51. Maybe you missed my point, and maybe I didn’t express my thoughts succinctly enough in prior posting? But I woke thinking that “some” of the complaint was ad hominem but most of the complaint is slightly different and that is what you address full on. I still say on these controversial issues Ann is misquoted and then piled on. So, I think the issue is really that she picks a valid subject and then presents it with outrageous metaphors, extensions, and exaggerations. Her valid point on the issues that get media coverage is often lost in the misreporting of the event.
So, what Ann could be doing is a total Goof on her readers. I’m thinking she might be right wing leaning, so she just takes two large steps to the right and falls over? Interesting comparison might be to Steven Colbert? None of us believe his outrageous statements? Why not? Because he started on a comedy show and he smiles alot. But Ann’s comments are just as stupid, she smiles ((not as well as Colbert)) but we had no context to place her in, so we take her seriously. Maybe her love for Cheney reveals her intent?
58–Steven Colbert gets away with the same type of statements.
59–Good case of projection?
60–another defense for FREEDOM of speech. Good for you. I know some day you’ll make us proud.
I’m still open to finding an Ann Coulter quote that is outrageous that made a media splash that was reported accurately in full context. I currently think the faggot statement counts as the full context still comes that close to a direct statement. The other three are conscious misrepresentations of what she actually said.
So the score is Ann==Minus One. Media and bloggers==Minus 3
Anyone want to go for the kewpie doll?
She – in the same manner as O’Really, Cal Thomas, Malkin, even Limbaugh, and with about the same frequency – says valid things on occasion. As has been said, even a broken clock is right twice a day…
When anyone tells me that any commentator on the Right OR on the Left is ‘always’ wrong, I know that that person is an ideologue and is not an objective seeker after truth. Neither side of any issue is 100% right or 100% wrong. Being willing to admit when an opponent is correct is necessary to intellectual integrity.
But the few things she gets right fall far short of conferring any credibility on all the stuff she’s dead-ass wrong about.
64—Nice right wing whine? Exh A as to why Rush Linbarf is successful. Right wingnuts love to be pandered to and not challenged to think.
Course, its not enough that you can choose which sites you visit, and which threads you read and responds to, no, you want to conform what everyone else does as well.
Yep, Exh A all over the place.
48 — bobbo, she’s got you tricked man! There’s a big one eyed snake under that skirt. I guarantee you!
57- Lauren, how do you know so much about Alabama and Mississippi? You must have an actual college degree or something. Maybe the news media educated you. I wish you would come down here and teach us a thing or two. All we know how to do is talk about things we know nothing about and spew biased, stero-typical hate-speech. I’d write more, but my hand is sore from thumping my Bible all morning. Oh, yeah–I prayed for your dumb ass.
#63 – Only by you, but your worship is noted.
#64, #66 – There’s no reason to reign in wacks like Bobbo: They do a better job of proving their own lack of intelligence than we could ever do.
67—I hate it when that happens!
68—I wonder if you realize how much you demonstrate her point?
69—Why don’t you engage in the debate? Highlight were I am wrong with your argument. Go on, give it the old (appropriate level of accomplishment) try.
70- Sorry, my tongue slipped out of my cheek. I’m just amazed at some of these comments and wonder if the writers see their hypocrisy?
she’s a freaking genius, i hate everything she says, but i gotta give it to her, she knows how to work it.
controversy sells — point blank, end of story
72—I hate it when that happens too, and I almost didn’t respond as your post could be read in several ways. It is more work to come up with actual factual based arguments rather than attitudinal conclusions. I guess broad non factual sarcasm is inbetween?
As long as you post factually “every once in a while”, thats ok.
I admit that Ann Coulter is glib and articulate, but intelligent? I don’t think so. I have never really heard her make any remarks or observations on anything that are more than just ordinary. I don’t think she is someone I would like to have a conversation with. I think Paris Hilton would be more interesting.
Bobbo
I am tempted to argue with you but decided not to. Anything I would say has already been said.
You raised a very valid point; verify what is being said. Having said that though, you might have pushed your argument a little too much in the face of facts. But I still respect you and dislike Coulture even more.
Since I didn’t see anyone else post it, the ultimate Ann Coulture link.
http://ifuckedanncoulterintheasshard.blogspot.com/
and the sequel,
http://backinanncoultersasssaddleagain.blogspot.com/
74—If I understand what you are saying==right now there are 21 threads on my Dvorak.org browser page. 5 are tech related. I don’t see you posting on those 5 threads. Why are YOU going out of your way to criticize people who are engaged in a thread of interest to them?
You don’t like change? Me neither.
#64 – Reign in these left-wing wackos that you have posting all this political propaganda here! I have always enjoyed your cynical perspective on the technology world… What happened to this blog that bears your name?
I come to this blog to get a different view of the tech world.
Then go to a tech blog. This is the “whatever we think is interesting blog”.
It’s propaganda when you don’t agree but its news when you do, right?
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The rest of my post is not related to that maroon’s blather.
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I don’t care about this thread because I don’t need to prove that Ann Coulter is a shrill and hateful bitch with no valid ideas or observations.
If I were to say anything it would be that we should stop characterizing her as a Republican and a conservative. Speaking as a liberal and a Democrat (which are two different things), I hate seeing my opposition so unfairly slandered as when they are compared to Coulter. You really have to drag the Right Wing lake to find as reprehensible a Republican as you find in Coulter. Most on the right are good people who I just don’t agree with. Very few (Rove and Lott to name two) are actual scumbags worthy of public ridicule and scorn.
So let’s try to be nice to our right wing friends by not unfairly connecting them to this knuckle-dragging hatemonger.
Ok… My obligatory participation in the Coulter bashing thread is done… See ya guys someplace more interesting…
77—I did review my posts in this thread this morning, so I wont again. No, if you think I take my “valid” points too far, then you don’t think they are valid. If you can show me wrong, I wound enjoy that.
Enjoy that as I did your links. Excellent gonzo writing style but beyond a demonostration of imagination and skill, I don’t see any further merit to it. Nice read though if you’re into sex with your boots on sort of thing.
79–but she does have some valid ideas, wrapped in vile spew perhaps, but valid nonetheless. Defeating the artful only invigors our own understanding.
#80 – Define “idea”
idea: 1-The content of cognition; the main thing you are thinking about
2–A personal view
The three on the table are:
1. Edwards uses his son for political gain
2. The 9-11 Widows are used by the Dems for Political Gain
3. Liberal commentators not attacked for worse statements than hers.
We can agree or not with her conclusions but on these issues, she gets misquoted. I think certain powers whip up the liberal masses just as others do with the republicon masses, using much the same techniques.
Mr Fusion, those links are pure genius. Right in keeping the the Ann Coulter culture. Kudos.
Ann Coulter is living proof that horses and humans should not mate.
The photo is labeled wrong. That circle around her mouth should be labeled “anal pore”
#3 – [Dead link. – ed.]
Nope. It’s still live. I tried it in a different browser (just to make sure it wasn’t cached). Perhaps your ISP is blocking it? 😉
#82 – I think certain powers whip up the liberal masses just as others do with the republicon masses, using much the same techniques.
Okay.
I fail to see the problem.
@86 – Here’s what I get when I try the link:
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Page not found
Hello! It looks like you have been directed to a page that is misspelled or no longer exists. Check your
spelling and try again. If the error re-occurs, please report this error to the webmaster of
http://www.iflipflop.com.
To go back to the previous page, click here.
Mustard, in the link she posted, she never calls Edwards a ‘faggot’. I’ll stand by my original statement that anyone who claims Gore never said he invented the internet, these people can’t turn around and say that Coulter called Edwards a faggot. So John Dvorak can say it, I can say it, but you can’t.
64 – digiguru
My sentiments exactly. This stuff belongs on Huffington or DailyKos, not DU.
But, heh, it’s John’s site. He is the ultimate decider.
Ann Coulter is the new Whore of Babylon.
MikeN, you’re either a moron or a liar. I never said the posted link showed that Ann Coulter called Edwards a faggot. She said she wished he had been killed in a terrorist attack. Do we need to get a kindergarten teacher in here to walk you through this?
As to Al Gore claiming he “invented the internet”, that myth was debunked years ago, in every urban myth site on the internet.
http://tinyurl.com/7l7b8
Read it. Weep. Ann Coulter is a hate-spewing harridan. Al Gore may well be the next president of the United States. Deal with it.
The problem with Coulter is that the very liberal social movements she decries created the environment in which she can stand up in her mini-skirt and as a woman say what she says.
If everyone in the US had always been social conservatives, we’d have a king, slaves and women with few of the rights Coulter currently enjoys.
>MikeN, you’re either a moron or a liar. I never said the posted link showed that Ann Coulter called Edwards a faggot.
Well let’s review the posts, shall we?
First, we have…
>Give it up, Bobbo. Coulter called John Edwards a “faggot”, and she DID lampoon his dead son, …
In response I posted,
>She never outright called him a ‘faggot’, so she should get a pass on that one from all the people that claim Al Gore never said he invented the internet. ….
Then you
>>called him a faggot
http://tinyurl.com/2ojx4p
We report. You decide. And anybody who still believes that Al Gore said he “invented the internet” probably still thinks Saddam and the Iraqis were behind 9/11. Can you read?
Christ. Is there NOTHING too stupid for the neocon hatemongers to believe?
So in your version of reading, when someone quotes part of your post and posts a link, I should assume that link has to do with something that wasn’t said by either person?