Keeping up with the theme set by the London Hailstorm post, I bring you this. As you can see in the above picture created by NASA, an sizeable section of the Polar ice cap has melted. The image was created with data gathered in 1979 and 2003.
Dwindling Arctic Sea Ice – Nasa.gov: Arctic perennial sea ice has been decreasing at a rate of 9 percent per decade since the 1970s. The changes in Arctic ice may be a harbinger of global climate change. Most of the recent global warming occurred over the last decade, with the largest temperature increase occurring over North America. Researchers suspect the loss of Arctic sea ice may be caused by changing atmospheric pressure patterns over the Arctic that move sea ice around, and by warming Arctic temperatures that result from the buildup of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere.
The image above shows a comparison of composites over the Arctic Circle, acquired in 1979 (top) and 2003 (bottom) by the DMSP Special Sensor Microwave Imager (SSMI). The first image shows the minimum sea ice concentration for the year 1979, and the second image shows the minimum sea ice concentration in 2003.
No matter how much scientific evidence is amassed proving global warming, the adherents of the Cheney energy cabal will always claim that it’s a left-wing communist plot to try to cut down Exxon-Mobil profits and the sale of Hummers. Pfffft.
It matches the insurance institute release, yesterday – another dastardly bunch of Lefties if there ever was one.
Safest box to be rear-ended in – just about any Honda. Most likely to pop that potato off your neck – any Hummer.
Hey, where’s the “End Times” banner on this one? Why decide not to take a shot this time?
There is nobody that thinks the planet isn’t getting warmer. There’s no debate there. The fringe debate is over the causes.
I don’t think there’s any question that global warming is happening. The question is: Is it a natural cycle of the planet or is it being caused by man? Of course there’s a third alternative: It’s a natural cycle that man is intensifying. This is probably an oversimplification of the problem.
Ah, there it is now. Don’t forget to check your horoscope people… just down and to the left…. Remember: Dvorak.org only makes fun of things that don’t pay for ads.
@#4, Exactly. This isn’t the first time the polar ice has melted a similar amount? We’re still here last time I looked.
Russians see this as great news as it now open up the sea for year round shipping and allows the development of once inhospital areas.
Remember that with rising sea levels and the fact that over 60% of the human race lives along the coast, global warming is a self correcting problem. đ
I am sure we will adapt to new environment. I always hated winter any way.
I always have a laugh when I hear people say ‘its the warmest summer in recorded times!’
We’ve been recording temperature accurately for what, a hundred years or so? Let’s be generous and say 200.
The earth is how many billions of years old again?
Please excuse me if I don’t rush out to worry that what mankind is doing is altering the climate of the earth, and it is instead a natural climate change the earth goes through.
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Chicken LittleAl Gore, “the sky is falling.”Highlights from “The Great Global Warming Swindle” a BBC Documentary
http://tinyurl.com/ytwgyr
âAntarctic Climate Cooling and Terrestrial Ecosystem Response,â P. T. Doran et al.
http://www.uic.edu/classes/geol/eaes102/Doran.pdf
So, what?
Melting of ice that is over the oceans (as opposed to land) will not cause the level of the oceans to rise even one millimeter.
#11
To check your theory, I let the ice in my gin and tonic melt. It did not spill over!
Happy 4th
Heehee – that’s a great example, BillM. đ
And NASA, which has sucked billions from the public teat, has absolutely no self-interest in promoting global warming hysteria, Mister M?
Oh, nice. Cite the discredited “documentary” by Revolutionary Communist Party Member and avowed Marxist Martin Durkin as “proof” against global warming?? HAW! And you think Michael Moore is a commie? Tee hee hee!
And Frank IBC, if it were only NASA claiming global warming, I wouldn’t pay it any mind. Unfortunately, virtually every scientifically aware person alive today agrees that the globe is warming, and “civilization” is largely to blame.
” …virtually every scientifically aware person alive today agrees that the globe is warming, and âcivilizationâ is largely to blame.”
Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
>>Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
You will forgive me if I point out that yours is not a very compelling argument. Res ipsa loquitur.
Meanwhile, Al Gore’s son just got busted for driving his Prius at 100 mph.
>>Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
Oh, perhaps you were referring to petroleum industry hack and laughingstock Tim Ball? Tee hee hee!
Apparently you haven’t seen my list of 80-100 scientists, institutions etc. with titles, locations and links, that debunks your “virtually every scientifically aware person alive” statement. I’ve posted it before.
It’s a thread killer Mister.
Why do you think your ‘termperature’ is 98.6? Maybe that was the temp of the ancient oceans that we all ‘evolved’ from. The earth may be returning to it’s normal temperature. 98.6
Mister Mustard,
â âŚvirtually every scientifically aware person alive today agrees that the globe is warming, and âcivilizationâ is largely to blame.â
Perhaps you should read the following.
The Leipzig Declaration on Global Climate Change
http://www.sepp.org/policy%20declarations/LDrevised.html
The Heidelberg Appeal
http://tinyurl.com/yubqu8
Oh yes, the discredited Leipzig Declaration, signed by dead people, weathermen, and people who denied ever having signed it. Nice. This is even better than the discredited Durkin “documentary”
“The signers are generally described by Fred Singer and his supporters as climate scientists, although the current signers also include 25 weather presenters. One key report opposing the scientific credentials of the signers was a Danish Broadcasting Company TV special by Ăjvind Hesselager.[4] Hesselager attempted to contact the declaration’s 33 European signers and found that four of them could not be located, twelve denied ever having signed, and some had not even heard of the Leipzig Declaration. Those who verified signing included a medical doctor, a nuclear scientist, and an entomologist. After discounting the signers whose credentials were inflated, irrelevant, false, or unverifiable, Hesselager claimed that only 20 of the names on the list had any scientific connection with the study of climate change, and some of those names were known to have obtained grants from the oil and fuel industry, including the German coal industry and the government of Kuwait (a major oil exporter).”
http://tinyurl.com/3a85wg
And the Heidelburg Appeal is over 15 years old. Relevant then, perhaps, but not now. It has been superseded by another UCS petition, the 1997 “Call to Action”, which was signed by 110 Nobel Prize-winning scientists calling specifically on world leaders to sign an effective global warming treaty at Kyoto.
Half-truths and lies. That what the petroleum industry lackeys specialize in. And if all else fails, make fun of Al Gore’s weight.
#22 Neither if the cited links have anything to do with debunking scientific claims of global climate change, just disagreeing with the methods being used to limit the change.
#4’s “Itâs a natural cycle that man is intensifying.” is probably the closest consensus theory.
>>just disagreeing with the methods being used to limit the change.
Exactly. Any methods to limit global temperature change that impede the petroleum industry’s ability to gouge money out of the world’s population at the expense of the environment are simply unacceptable.
As Deep Throat once said: “Follow the money”. That’s the reason why there is so much energy and prevarication being expended in an attempt to “debunk” something that virtually every credible environmental scientist in the world believes. The petroleum industry has very deep pockets. Mother Earth? Fuck her!
Some of the scientists who have the guts to challenge the IPCC, even though the get ridiculed and harassed by special interest groups and the well paid for and bought scientists of the IPCC…
John Christy, professor of atmospheric science and director of the Earth System Science Center at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, contributor to several IPCC reports
Claude Allègre, geochemist, Institute of Geophysics (Paris) (and former global warming supporter)
Syun-Ichi Akasofu, retired professor of geophysics and Director of the International Arctic Research Center of the University of Alaska Fairbanks
Robert C. Balling, Jr., director of the Office of Climatology and a professor of geography at Arizona State University
Chris de Freitas, Associate Professor, School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science, University of Auckland
David Deming, geology professor at the University of Oklahoma
Richard Lindzen, MIT meteorology professor and member of the National Academy of Sciences
Roy Spencer, principal research scientist, University of Alabama in Huntsville
Khabibullo Ismailovich Abdusamatov, mathematician and astronomer at Pulkovskaya Observatory of the Russian Academy of Sciences and the supervisor of the Astrometria project of the Russian section of the International Space Station
Sallie Baliunas, astronomer, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
Robert M. Carter, geologist, researcher at the Marine Geophysical Laboratory at James Cook University in Australia
George V. Chilingar, Professor of Civil and Petroleum Engineering at the University of Southern California
Ian Clark, hydrogeologist, professor, Department of Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa
William M. Gray, Professor of Atmospheric Science, Colorado State University
Zbigniew Jaworowski, chair of the Scientific Council at the Central Laboratory for Radiological Protection in Warsaw
David Legates, associate professor of geography and director of the Center for Climatic Research, University of Delaware
Marcel Leroux, former Professor of Climatology, UniversitĂŠ Jean Moulin
Tim Patterson, paleoclimatologist and Professor of Geology at Carleton University in Canada
Ian Plimer, Professor, School of Earth & Environmental Sciences, The Mawson Laboratories, The University of Adelaide
Frederick Seitz, retired, former solid-state physicist, former president of the National Academy of Sciences
Nir Shaviv, astrophysicist at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem (former IPCC supporter)
Fred Singer, Professor emeritus of Environmental Sciences at the University of Virginia
Willie Soon, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
Philip Stott, professor emeritus of biogeography at the University of London
Henrik Svensmark, Danish National Space Center
Jan Veizer, environmental geochemist, Professor Emeritus from University of Ottawa
Sherwood Idso, former research physicist, USDA Water Conservation Laboratory, and adjunct professor, Arizona State University
David Henderson, economist, Westminster Business School in London, former head of the Economics and Statistics Department at the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development
Patric Michaels, professor of environmental science, University of Virginia
AND not surprisingly⌠two reviewers and an atmospheric science consultant affiliated with the IPCC:
Dr. Richard S. Courtney, climate and atmospheric science consultant, Peter Dietze, an official reviewer and Dr. Vincent Gray, an expert reviewer.
>>Melting of ice that is over the oceans (as opposed to land) will
>>not cause the level of the oceans to rise even one millimeter.
Oooh, you must be one of the “scientists” who signed those anti-environmental petitions, huh?
You’re right though. The ocean levels wont rise by on millimeter, they will rise by TWENTY THREE FEET (http://tinyurl.com/5nqme)
>>the well paid for and bought scientists of the IPCC
Haw haw haw! Now THAT is a classic example of the pot calling the kettle black! Haw haw haw! I notice you didn’t support your contention with a link. Link please?
I looked up the first guy on your list, and came up with this quote:
“It is scientifically inconceivable that after changing forests into cities, turning millions of acres into irrigated farmland, putting massive quantities of soot and dust into the air, and putting extra greenhouse gases into the air, that the natural course of climate has not changed in some way.”
Wow. He really sounds like he supports the petroleum industry’s position, huh? Pfffft.
Mister Mustard, don’t be an idiot please. If you want an honest discussion and believe you are right, don’t resort to deception.
Your quote is 20 years old. Over time Claude Allègre, who’s second on the list not first, changed his views as more information became available. The following quote is current and can be found here.
“With a wealth of data now in, Dr. Allegre has recanted his views. To his surprise, the many climate models and studies failed dismally in establishing a man-made cause of catastrophic global warming. Meanwhile, increasing evidence indicates that most of the warming comes of natural phenomena. Dr. Allegre now sees global warming as over-hyped and an environmental concern of second rank.”