Won’t see me — a red-blooded ‘merican — gettin’ hitched to a guy just ’cause it’s fashionable. No sirree!
Ten Reasons Gay Marriage Is Un-American
1. Being gay is not natural. Real Americans always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, and air conditioning.
2. Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.
3. Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.
4. Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn’t changed at all; women are still property, blacks still can’t marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.
#29 I declare you a troll unless you can back up your statements. What are the fallacies and inaccuracies?
Poor demonized you 🙁
Now I’m just a copy-cat. I can’t deal with that.
#23 Ms. Scott – You must be under the weather today. Currently, there is no right to marry someone you love. The right is for a man to marry a women, and vice-versa. You could have said that homoists don’t have the right to marry other homoists like heteroists have the right to marry heteroists.
#28 Bobbo – …and the Dunning-Kruger Effect also plays a big role to the decline of civilizations.
#26 – What do you mean, this Blog is a gay joke. Well, at least the postings from UD.
What does every woman wants in a man? That he has to be smart, good looking and with a sense of humour, unfortunately the men they want are gay.
What does every man wants in a woman? That she has to be smart, good looking and with a sense of humour, unfortunately they can’t marry 3 women at once.
News flash — homosexuality isn’t contagious.
How about we let them live in peace.
#33 – KevinL,
As the founding fathers said in the Declaration of Independence, we are endowed with certain inalienable rights. I claim that this is a right to which everyone is entitled. That you deny some people this inalienable right and that our current laws do as well, just means that we need a change in the laws. This is no different than when our constitution did not allow blacks and whites to marry. This is no different than when slaves and native Americans were not counted as equals or at all, respectively. When people are denied rights, the fact that they are currently denied does not make the rights any less valid or important. It just means that some inDUHviduals do not yet recognize how wrong-headed and bigoted they are being by doing so.
KevinL,
What the eff is a homoist? It doesn’t appear in the dictionary.
Currently, there is no right to marry someone you love.
Oh? Well, Canada, Belgium, Spain, The Netherlands, Norway, Germany, Great Britain, Iceland, South Africa and several other more forward countries do allow homosexuals to marry the one they love. So far, only Massachusetts allows homosexuals to marry their true love. Vermont, Connecticut, New Hampshire, Oregon, Washington, and New Jersey recognize the rights of homosexual couples through civil unions..
The right is for a man to marry a women, and vice-versa.
Why? Are your parents a couple of nice guys?
KevenL,
It was less than 50 years ago that several states did not allow blacks and whites to marry. They felt it was unnatural, similar to bestiality.
Less than 40 years ago homosexuality was considered a mental illness.
Hopefully, in a few years we may look back and realize how wrong we were and how right it was to correct the discrimination.
Well gay marriage is a redefinition of marriage, unless you are referring to gay men marrying women. The term same-sex marriage same-sex union of a man and a woman. So to have gay marriae calls for a redefinition of marriage.
For most people’s marriages the effect is nil, but that doesn’t mean marriages aren’t harmed. The entire culture has an effect on marriages, and divorce is indeed another wrecking ball. If marriage is redefined as being something beyond the union of a man and woman , a means of nurturing children, and protecting women, then indeed I think some marriages will be affected by that culture. Just as a culture of easy divorce and less social stigma has led to more people getting divorced.
#24 & 29: Please look up the definitions of satire and hyperbole. Then see how they just might apply to the post. On occasion, we like to require readers to make use of what’s in the melon on their shoulders.
#40: A large number of people get married with no intention of ever having children. Should they be prevented from marrying if the reason for doing so is children? The concept of marriage being a way to protect women went out last century with woman’s lib and a high percentage of married women either wanting to or having no choice financially but to go to work.
I would contend that a change in the definition of marriage would be for the better. It harms no one for several reasons:
– Having gays marry doesn’t prevent straights from marrying.
– Not allowing gays to marry doesn’t mean they will ever marry the opposite sex. Gay is gay for life.
– Having two people in a stable, monogamous relationship is healthy for them (making them more productive to society), eliminates the issue of spreading STDs, allows each to care for each other based on laws about married couples (which should be amended to include same-sex marriage) with regard to medical, financial and other considerations making them less a burden on society if something happens to one of them, and so on. This is true whether the couple is same or different sex.
The only reason it bothers some people is because they have been taught that it should bother them. Don’t forget, marriage was created in a time when life expectancy was short. You had kids and by the time they were self-sufficient, you were either dead from illness or accident, or would soon be. What’s changed is we live far longer so the idea of marriage lasting a lifetime which could now be many decades has itself changed the definition of marriage from being for the benefit of the children to now include taking care of each other long after children are gone. Being with someone for 50 years is an ordeal, hence one of the many reasons for divorce rate. You don’t hear a hew and cry about that detrimental change to marriage.
Women working doesn’t change the point about protecting women. The idea is that it protects women from being dumped by a man for a younger more attractive wife, which is what makes divorce another wrecking ball. Yes, you mention benefits, but that doesn’t take away the real costs that come from redefining marriage to please a small minority.
MikeN,
Buy a calendar. I think you may have the wrong idea about the current year. And, when you’re done discovering the changes to the moral zeitgeist since the Bible told you it was OK to own slaves and that unmarried women who had sex should be stoned to death along with homosexuals and those who mixed linen and wool and those who worked on the sabbath and those who disrespected their parents and those who changed their religion and those who lived in the wrong cities (read Deuteronomy through Joshua) and many many others, come back and tell me you still think homosexuals don’t deserve the same rights and benefits of society that you enjoy.
Then, try to think about the fact that democracy is not solely about majority rule, it’s also about protection of the rights of the majority, else you’ll have to call Iran and Saudi Arabia democracies.
Oh yeah, and men and women really are equal after all. I feel very sorry for your wife, if you have one. She must be in a living hell.
MikeN,
Let me add that I feel sorry for you too, never knowing the joy of really loving and respecting someone as an equal.
#43, Scott,
…try to think …
For MikeN, that is where you go wrong. I am convinced he is incapable of rational thought.
#45 – Mr. Fusion,
We are a rationalizing species, not a rational one.
#40 – If marriage is redefined as being something beyond the union of a man and woman , a means of nurturing children, and protecting women, then indeed I think some marriages will be affected by that culture.
The definition of marriage is loose and moving. Our western concept of marriage conflicts with the Indian culture’s ideas, where arranged marriages are normal. There are Muslim sects where polygamy is accepted, and in almost all Muslim sects, women are simply so much cattle. Since marriage is a religious construct, I have little respect for broad definitions….
But I have a great deal of respect for your marriage or mine or anyone else’s, no matter how they personally define it.
I will say that we stop seeing marriage as a mechanism for protecting women and nurturing children, that can only be a positive. We need to reduce the population growth, and we need to get past the archaic notion that families can only succeed with two parents, and we definitely need to get past the notion that women are incapable of protecting themselves.
Just as a culture of easy divorce and less social stigma has led to more people getting divorced.
It’s also lead to women (and men) not staying trapped in emotionally or physically abusive relationships.
There is no doubt that some people take the easy way out when things get tough… But that isn’t everyone… Further, we can decide that we are a culture of people who can take responsibility for their own actions, or not. If we are, that means social conservatives need to suck it up and let people do things that the might not approve of.
In other words… these relationships we are talking about… are no one else’s business but those in the relationship.
#42 – The idea is that it protects women from being dumped by a man for a younger more attractive wife, which is what makes divorce another wrecking ball.
Cripes.
If a woman’s husband is of such character that he’d dump his wife for an “upgraded” model, like she was a TV or laptop, then she made a bad decision when she married him and is better off.
Here is a radical notion…
Marriage IS NOT sacred. It is often better to break the contract than to honor it.
#39 – Less than 40 years ago homosexuality was considered a mental illness.
When did this change? Rosie? Ellen? Elton? Maybe it’s just a coincidence?
Most interesting is the overwelming desire by ‘the community’ to be accepted (said with a lisp). Even the definition of the word “homophobic” has been adapted to include descrimination in addition to fear. That way you can call someone a homophobe even if they don’t really fear ‘the community’ but just won’t accept them. Look up any other -phobic word and the definition is simply ‘fear of’.
Well with your policies, your goal of population decline is certain being realized.
#50 – MikeN,
Well with your policies, your goal of population decline is certain being realized.
This will happen no matter what we do. Making it as painless as possible would be a good thing. I don’t really see any relation between population and marriage though. I’m married with no children. There are certainly people with children that are not married. Both of these situations are on the rise, I think.
Even for the religious, the bible allows for alternate lifestyles. Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines. (I hope that not all of the eunuchs were eunuchs, or there were some bored lonely women there.) Lot’s daughters had children fathered by Lot, a situation that probably doesn’t make for very good genetics, not to mention … ICK!! But, since everyone was consenting, god seemed to think it was OK.
#49 KevinL,
Liberace, Lou Reed, Boy George, Rock Hudson, Bert and Ernie, Oscar and Felix. I’ll take famous homosexuals, bisexuals and gender benders for 200 Pat. Holly came from Miami, FLA ….
#49, KevinL,
It should be apparent to all that you are homophobic. You are afraid of homosexuals. Someday you may get over your fear, but for now, you are most likely afraid you might catch what ever they have.
A lot of closet homosexuals have this problem. They are much more afraid of being found out than anything. So they repress their inner true feelings. There is no denying though, homosexuality is genetic. You are born gay. Eh Keven?
#52 – Mr. Fusion,
Please, it is possible that there are just some latent homosexual tendencies with which Kevin has not come to terms. We are not all perfect Kinsey 1s or 6s. Perhaps it is simply a mild curiosity or attraction that causes the fear. And, Kevin, yes, it is fear. Not fear that they will harm you, fear that you may be one. After all, why concern yourself about the sexuality of someone in whom you have no sexual interest?
-why concern yourself about the sexuality of someone in whom you have no sexual interest?
-There is no denying though, homosexuality is genetic. You are born gay.
First off, Let me be clear….oops, poor choice of words.
I wouldn’t say I have a fear, it’s more anger of the continual onslaught of ‘the community’ wanting to push the idea that “homoism is normal” down everyone’s throats (more poor word choices). Which leads to the whole “it’s genetic” so it’s not our fault. Obviously, there has never been a genetic marker. It has always been a middle of the 1s and 6s that is then fed through abnormal nurturing. It is much more so in gay women than men. Men could be linked to wild things like ‘time in the womb’ and ‘number of prior male pregnancies’. You call it genetics, the rest of the world calls it hormonal imbalance. I think I said in a post a long time ago the the movement should have just claimed homoism was a disability and they would be light years ahead by now. Instead, it was “we are normal, you must accept us for who we are….” So no, sorry to spoil your fun, but my ‘fear’ of gays is based soley on anger towards the movement, not the people. I have the same ‘fear’ of drug addicts, pedophiles, and wife beaters. Which of these would you consider normal or genetic?
you do understand that 8th graders come on here for reports, right?