Moved BACK to the top until it runs out of steam!
I was always told that Christianity was a monotheistic religion but I want to challenge that because clearly it is not. First the definitions:
- No Gods – Atheism
- One God – Monotheism
- Two or more Gods – Polytheism
First, I’m not even going through the “Holy Ghost” thing except to say that “Trinity” means 3 and 3 > 1.
Assuming that:
- God is a deity
- Jesus is a deity
- Jesus and God are individuals
Then God and Jesus are two and 2 > 1.
Therefore Christianity is polytheism.
Polytheism isn’t a matter of belief. I personally am a Realist and I don’t believe any of it. However when one objectively classifies religious beliefs based on the number of gods, I’m counting two. Some would count three, but either is greater than one.
The reference is the Bible. According to the stories Jesus and God are two individuals. God was in the Old Testament, Jesus was not. Jesus was born of a virgin, God was not. Jesus addresses God as a separate individual. They have different stories. They have different roles. That talk to each other the way separate people talk.
The bottom line is – they are both deities and they are two individuals. Therefore Christianity is a polytheistic religion.
>>But I would ask what is there to be
>>offended by in gay marriage?
Ooooh, NOW the truth comes out ;);)
And truth to tell, there’s noting to be offended about in gay marriage (just like there’s nothing to be offended about in being a Jew or being from the Far East) – it’s the ridicule, the lampooning, the denigration by homophobic rednecks that is offensive.
Wow, I go to class come back and you all are still at it? Dont you get tired of christ and the unholy trinity? How long can you all aruge over a lie? The church dosent even understand it’s own scripture, esp when it contradicts itself.
Mister Mustard #298
“Hey, almost 300 messages, and you STILL don’t understand the issue?”
Wait this is good. LOL
“It’s not CHINESE who are being called Orientals it’s people from what used to be called “The Orient”.”
LOL Are not the Chinese from the Orient?
The orient also included parts of the middle east. Which is one of the reasons the term is incorrect. But it is the history of the word in the Americas that makes it offensive. Not the word itself.
“I’m sorry if in your rarified world of political correctitude people find “Oriental” offensive ”
Personally I am not offended by it. I am just pointing out that it in today’s educated society is considered to be offensive.
“but I don’t find it particularly offensive.”
I got that.
“And neither do a lot of other people”
No doubt
“, including those who are described that way ”
Sure just like there are Irish that don’t mind being called drunks.
That doesn’t make it ok.
“but some groups of people, for example “Persians” (Persia has not existed since 1935, having become Iran) actually prefer the older terminology”
BTW Persia was once part of the orient so should we call them oriental? And “Persian” was not used as a derogatory term in the America.
“And it’s certainly more accurate than “Asian”.”
Well of course because they are Middle Eastern. and I will point this out for the last time None of those terms were used in a derogatory way in the Americas unlike “Orientals”
Mr Mustard #302
“Ooooh, NOW the truth comes out ;);)”
Ok I laughed.
“it’s the ridicule, the lampooning, the denigration by homophobic rednecks that is offensive.”
That’s the point the term “Oriental” was used to ridicule those from the Orient in early America.
#303 we are very religious people, as you see 😀
not like you jewish rabbies coming just for conclusion 😛
The shooter in Colorado was home schooled. Those crazy church people…
#299
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Fact1
you cited only part of my message (part which i was bashing myself) as if it was what i meant
Fact2
you use words and sentences straight from old propaganda schools (“…rear its ugly head”?! what the f* this is not a communist politburo speech)
Just these 2 discredit you completely (and there is much more).
I will not continue any discussion with you, asshole.
>>LOL Are not the Chinese from the Orient?
Oh, LOL! LOL, LOL, LOL!!
The Chinese are called “Chinese”. Vietnamese are called “Vietnamese”. Cambodians are called “Cambodians”. Japanese are called “Japaneses”. The overarching term to describe anyone who has the physical traits shared by natives of all those countries, as well as others from “The Orient”, is “orientals”.
>>Sure just like there are Irish that
>>don’t mind being called drunks.
Christ, are you really going to try and put forth the proposition that referring to someone by his or her geographic origins is the same as calling the person a drunk? I think it’s nap time for you, son.
I’d say anyone who considers a term meaning “from the land of the rising sun” to be as offensive as “drunkard” or “nigger” should probably find something else to be worried about. There are bigger fish to fry. You must be from Washington State.
btw, many people in the land formerly known as “the Orient” refer to THEMSELVES as Orientals.
#307
News said specifically he was schooled in a Darwinist home 😛
Mr Mustard #301
“I knew Lady Diana”
I had the pleasure of making her acquaintance too. But she wasn’t an authority on comedy. Del Close did.
“Hey, I heard on TV that all Jews are cheapskates, insufferable mamas boys who “grow up” to be lawyers or cunning and shrewd money handlers.”
Me too. wow you and I have so much in common.
“I wasn’t going to mention it though, because I don’t believe anything on TV unless it has to do with Brittaney Spears or Mary Kate Olson.”
No I don’t believe anything on tv because most of what I watch is fiction. Even the news these days.
“And I’m not Catholic, btw. They’re the ones who like to fuck little boys. We Protestants go more for “meth and man-ass”. Aren’t you keeping up with the news?”
LOL I laughed again. I know you got my point.
I don’t think “Christians” like to fuck little boys. Anymore, than I believe Protestants like “meth or man ass” as you put it.
I was just making a point.
“Aren’t you keeping up with the news?”
Like I said the news has a lot of fiction. So I don’t take it a face value. But yes I did notice a bit of reporting about the matter.
I’m a Christian, studying for Ordination and I saw this for what it was – a joke!
What a wonderful exercise in stirring the pot!
“Thank God I’m an atheist?” Priceless… And you can’t beat the graphic.
I’m still laughing!
DrBen, it’s a shame you have decided to throw your life away for the lie. You should check out my page…you will find it very informative. You dont need to be a Dr to see how big a lie your bible is
>>You dont need to be a Dr to see how big
>>a lie your bible is
You think yours is any better, Torah-brain? Go wave a chicken around your head, see if it takes away some of your sins 🙂 🙂 😉
PoliticallyVeryCorrect #308
“Fact1
you cited only part of my message (part which i was bashing myself) as if it was what i meant”
Your point? Sorry if reposting your statements make you look bad.
“Fact2
you use words and sentences straight from old propaganda schools ”
Really? Back it up. Show some proof otherwise it is just your opinion. Not a fact.
“Just these 2 discredit you completely (and there is much more).”
Wow you have a very low threshold to discredit especially when they really don’t do anything to discredit me.
Usually the facts have to be proof that shows that the info I gave is wrong. You post doesn’t do that
Sorry no wammy
Please pick up your parting gift on the way out.
“I will not continue any discussion with you, asshole.”
Good All this typing is making me tired.
I wish I could my friend but alas I am all out of chickens, plus to make a chicken Kosher can be messy. Thanks for the advice though.
#313 isn’t it hanukkah already?
rabbi go get your menorrah, eat some knaidlach and read some torah passages, what are you doing here? 😀
#286 – No wonder you can’t get any decent Chinese food.
Oh wait! Is that a stereotype?
No 🙂
There’s a good Greek restaurant in West Lafayette, though. The Parthenon. Too bad it’s overtly stereotypical; the staffers stand around in wife-beater t-shirts, slicking lamb off the spit for the gyros sandwiches, yelling at each other in Greek. Great spanakotiropita, too.
You are correct sir… That is a good place. I like the No Wifebeater, No Service policy
Damn. Can’t even get a decent meal these days without offending somebody.
What are ya gonna do?
I lit the candles already tonight, my gift to myself is to spend some time here reading the crap that all of you write about your “gods” and christ.
🙂
>>I wish I could my friend but alas I
>>am all out of chickens, plus to make
>>a chicken Kosher can be messy.
So get a Kosher sponge to clean up afterwards. No pain, no gain.
#315
reading you is like reading Mustard about christianity – same stupid self-propelled arguments, or typical ancient propagnada choice of words (i gave you an example which you again conveniently removed while “citing”).
You can try pretend you have something to say, but in a long run thread you end always end up as you just did 😀
Eh, I’d rather watch you Goy make fools of yourself 😉
#319 read this:
your god is a moron, did you knew?
If you read torah-torah-torah 700 billion times, you’ll also discover your god is a SHE.
And she has constant menstruation!
Mr. Mustard #309
“Oh, LOL! LOL, LOL, LOL!!”
Not sure why that made you laugh.
“The Chinese are called “Chinese”. Vietnamese are called “Vietnamese”. Cambodians are called “Cambodians”. Japanese are called “Japaneses”.
Agree, Agree,Agree,Agree.
“The overarching term to describe anyone who has the physical traits shared by natives of all those countries, as well as others from “The Orient”, is “orientals”.”
So do you call Iranians “Orientals” How about Egyptians? Or Afghani’s.
It has nothing to do with their physical traits unless you use it in a racist manner.
“Christ, are you really going to try and put forth the proposition that referring to someone by his or her geographic origins is the same as calling the person a drunk? I think it’s nap time for you, son.”
No. Wow you need to read my statements again.
“You must be from Washington State.”
nope Why do people keep saying that. lol
“btw, many people in the land formerly known as “the Orient” refer to THEMSELVES as Orientals.”
Just like many people who call themselves “niggers” happen to be African America.
Doesn’t make it any less offensive.
I guess I should have posted this a while back
“Random House’s Guide to Sensitive Language states “Other words (e.g., Oriental, colored) are outdated or inaccurate.” This Guide to Sensitive Language suggests the use of “Asian or more specific designation such as Pacific Islander, Chinese American, [or] Korean.” [4] Merriam-Webster describes the term as “sometimes offensive,”[5] Encarta states when the term is used as a noun it is considered ” a highly offensive term for somebody from East Asia”
wow, it’s your grasp of theology is astounding! 🙂
#316 no more chicken?
how about a kosher pork 😀
#326…Kosher Pork? but I couldnt wave a christian woman above my head! come on lets be serious!
The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that
is present in humanity because a rib woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree… yeah, makes sense.
A message from the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
PoliticallyVeryCorrect #323
“(”…rear its ugly head”?! what the f* this is not a communist politburo speech)”
LOL that was you evidence? LOL
Go back to sleep
#327 shouldn’t it supposed to be a christian innocent child, not a woman?
#329 ah get lost, im done with you already, youre not even fun to read or fun to make fun of. Total loser. Get lost!