Moved BACK to the top until it runs out of steam!
I was always told that Christianity was a monotheistic religion but I want to challenge that because clearly it is not. First the definitions:
- No Gods – Atheism
- One God – Monotheism
- Two or more Gods – Polytheism
First, I’m not even going through the “Holy Ghost” thing except to say that “Trinity” means 3 and 3 > 1.
Assuming that:
- God is a deity
- Jesus is a deity
- Jesus and God are individuals
Then God and Jesus are two and 2 > 1.
Therefore Christianity is polytheism.
Polytheism isn’t a matter of belief. I personally am a Realist and I don’t believe any of it. However when one objectively classifies religious beliefs based on the number of gods, I’m counting two. Some would count three, but either is greater than one.
The reference is the Bible. According to the stories Jesus and God are two individuals. God was in the Old Testament, Jesus was not. Jesus was born of a virgin, God was not. Jesus addresses God as a separate individual. They have different stories. They have different roles. That talk to each other the way separate people talk.
The bottom line is – they are both deities and they are two individuals. Therefore Christianity is a polytheistic religion.
This 170+ post is amazing. Some of you have delved into complex racial and ethic issues, theological rants, and embarrassing testimonials to grapple with the simple binary question: Is Christianity a polytheistic religion?
It’s a yes or no question that requires no greater a resource than a dictionary to answer.
Yes. Christianity is a polytheistic religion.
#181, I prefer the term Jewish scholar.
““Is merely identifying a Chinese person as oriental now a racist statement????”
Yes and it has been for a while now.”
No it isn’t, you flaming idiot.
‘Oriental’ means, has always meant, ‘originating in the geographical area which has been traditionally referred to as the Orient.
It is a simple, objective adjective / noun which contains exactly ZERO VALUE JUDGEMENT. Do you read me, asshole?
IT DOES NOT REFER TO ANYTHING OTHER THAN A PART OF THE WORLD.
You are one brainwashed dipshit, sonny. I pity you.
Mr Mustard
You can try and pretend you are not a racist just like Mr. Fusion pretends that he is not while saying 10% slavery is not an issue.
You can hide behind any explination you want about your ignorant racist statements but you will only fool those with a weak mind.
Shame on you bobbo. You should know better.
>>“Whats the complaint here?”
>>
>>He called them pushy
Well, I was only kidding (kinda), but you make the point better than I ever could.
>>I dispelled his explanation. It is incorrect
>>because that trait exists in Africa as well
>>>as through out all of Asia.
Well, I wouldn’t go so far as to say you “dispelled” it. “Bitched miserably about it” would be a more accurate description.
And if you’re going to bitch miserably about something, please try to get your facts right. I listed a half-dozen places in Asia (and there are more, but I got tuckered out listing them) where people do not have that trait. And although some people in Africa do have an epicanthic fold, nobody is going to confuse them with the people-formerly-known-as-Oriental. Cutting through your Politically Correct bullshit for just a moment (you don’t mind, I hope), what people mean nowadays when they say “Asian” is what they used to mean when they said “Oriental” (Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, Loatian, etc.). Except “Asia” has a real geographic meaning, and a whole lotta people who live in Asia are not what the GenPop would call “Asian”, so the term is sort of meaningless. Except as a politically-correct latter-day replacement for “Oriental”. Every bit as “racist”, though, hm?
Mister Mustard, I just figured you’d be able to back up what you say. I guess you don’t know what you’re talking about. Thanks for playing tho!
>>>Jesus is not God.
>
>Always good to get the “bloviating bullshitter” >point of view from somebody who doesn’t know what >the fuck he’s talking about.
“the Three-Headed Cat said”
Why don’t you go down to China town and start asking them if they are Oriental? See how long it is before they kick your ass.
#183 you may prefer, but it is *me* who decides how *I* see the ones like you 🙂
I guess I have to clarify for you: you’re nothing even close to any scholar, you’re just another religious idiot.
Jesus was a scholar. Mohammad was a scholar. Many otherwere scholars of their religions and beliefs. Youre just a leech living of off them.
Also, what’s so bad about Christianity being a Polytheism religion?
Mr Mustard
“And if you’re going to bitch miserably about something, please try to get your facts right.”
My facts are correct. If they are not prove them wrong.
Haha! jesus was not a scholar, if anything he was delusional (quite possibly from drinking all that wine he got from that water right?) And this is straight from the Rabbi’s mouth.
Mr. Mustard
“what people mean nowadays when they say “Asian” is what they used to mean when they said “Oriental””
No only ignorant fucks like you.
“Why don’t you go down to China town and start asking them if they are Oriental? See how long it is before they kick your ass.”
It’s ASIATOWN, you filthy racist scum!
>>My facts are correct. If they are not prove
>>them wrong.
Look up “Asia” in the fucking dictionary.
#190 christianity can be polytheist religion, jesus and god can have triple heads attached to one neck like a medieval dragon 😉 and be one polygod in monotheism 😉 i dont care – but im not christian hehe 😉
read all the 180 posts, christians already said whats wrong with that 😉
the Three-Headed Cat said #194
“It’s ASIATOWN, you filthy racist scum!”
No moron it is China town because it is Chinese and not inclusive of all Asian cultures.
Nice try but No I’m Sorry. Please pick up your parting gifts on the way out.
Mustard, you christianity-spewing prick 😉
why you even bother replying to the morans who yell “racism!” when they see zebra with more white than black stripes? 😉
>>No only ignorant fucks like you.
And what do the groovy set mean when they say “Asian”? Indians? Siberians? Russians?
>>Why don’t you go down to China town and start
>>asking them if they are Oriental? See how long
>>it is before they kick your ass.
Are you suggesting that all Chinese (or even all “Asians”) are members of violent, mafia-like tongs, triads, and other aspects of the seamy underbelly “down in China town”??
You racist son of a bitch!
(I hope I didn’t offend your Italian sensibilities by referring to the “Mafia”).
You’re a hoot!
There is a problem with more than one G-d! There is only ONE G-d and he is not some Faberge-egg “god” with in a “god” with in a “god”…I just wanted to make sure people understand that, but christians wont.
Mister Mustard #195
“Look up “Asia” in the fucking dictionary.”
And how does the definition of Asia prove me wrong? Oh thats right it doesn’t.
Nice try but No I’m Sorry. Please pick up your parting gifts on the way out.
>>Mustard, you christianity-spewing prick
Hey, why don’t you go down to China town and ask them if Mister Mustard is a Christianity-spewing prick? See how long it is before they kick your ass!
#200 Mister Rabbi, what’s with that “G-d”?
you mean god? “God”?
Only you and ones like you believe that crap, so stop being here Evangelist Jew spreading jewishness, you semite! 😀
#201 – J
“And how does the definition of Asia prove me wrong? Oh thats right it doesn’t.”
Don’t look now, sonny, but I conclusively proved you totally, 100% wrong. And don’t worry, everyone who understands logic (which doesn’t include you) knows it.
#202 ok, whateva, you buddhism-spewing prick – sounds better?
#184 – Oriental’ means, has always meant, ‘originating in the geographical area which has been traditionally referred to as the Orient.
It is a simple, objective adjective / noun which contains exactly ZERO VALUE JUDGEMENT. Do you read me, asshole?
IT DOES NOT REFER TO ANYTHING OTHER THAN A PART OF THE WORLD.
Actually, it refers to objects originating from the Orient. A rug can be Oriental, a person cannot. So saying that a person is Oriental could be construed as dehumanizing, although 99.9% of the time, it’s probably an honest mistake in the use of the word.
J:
#176–“You don’t understand the history of being a Jew”==well, thats true or not depending on just what you might mean? Woody Allan used the joke several times: a person would ask his character “Do you want to xxx” and Woody would complain to (Diane Keaton) did you hear him call me Jew?”
So, as it is true that I don’t know what it means to be Jewish, YOU may not either as the big secret is, the majority of people don’t know and don’t care.
Many New Yorkers take pride in being from a “high energy” city or being pushy themselves. Guiliani wants to be president on that basis.
“Oriental” is racists? Well, maybe for some but not for others. Certainly, a key characteristic of racists is they ignore the spectrum of characteristics and make a subject monolithic. Don’t know if this makes you racist yourself or just overly sensitive but certainly you ignore the innocent uses of the terms you object to.
Rather puerile to think someone that disagrees with you doesn’t know what you know? As in YOU are the measure of all things? But Bravo for not calling me a racist for my ignorance.
#177–I believe in polyester and believe it comes in many blends.
#185–what should I know better? Do I think Mustardo is a racist FROM THIS THREAD?
>>No moron it is China town because it is
>>Chinese and not inclusive of all Asian
>>cultures.
Oh, they don’t have anybody from Chennai or Mumbai? No one from Siberia, or Bangladesh, or any of those other “Asian” places?
Is it inclusive of all Chinese cultures? Hong Kong? Taiwan? Macau? Mongolia? Tibet? Xinjian? Do they speak Cantonese or Mandarin? Xian? Wu? Min? Or do all Chinese people just “look alike” to you?
You racist bastard.
#203-You can’t get me upset 🙂 I don’t get annoyed easy (besides Seinfeld is on in the background so its stress relief) as long as I can pester christians I am doing my job
>>And how does the definition of Asia prove
>>me wrong? Oh thats right it doesn’t.
No, of course not. Why should the definition of Asia have anything to do with what Asians are? How dunderheaded of me!
#206
a rug made in Orient is oriental, but human born in Orient is not oriental because it is dehumanizing?
Car made in America is american, human born in America is American, and it is NOT dehumanizing?
Your logic clearly sux…