From Bradblog:
So, wait. It wasn’t the Syrian regime, but rather the Syrian rebels who used sarin nerve gas recently? That’s the story being reported tonight by Reuters, from actually named sources among U.N. investigators. But will anybody notice? Or, with Israeli airstrikes already under way, and the neo-cons already demanding another new war, is the news too little, too late…again?
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Truth is the first casualty of war
Apparently no Americans have paid attention to the Arab Spring, when the Libyan government fell, its massive stockpile of chemical weapons that Ghadaffi years earlier admitted he owned invariably went into the hands of Libyan terrorists and then migrated their way into such feel-good groups as the Al-Nusra Brigades.
i’m totally going to do this in my neighborhood.. if google says it’s ok
Syria is Iran’s means of supporting Hamas and Hezbollah. Toppling the Assad regime to bring in Al Qaeda doesn’t seem like a step up. Perhaps they could cut a deal and support the Assad regime if he breaks from Iran. He is a Baathist like Saddam.
“He is a Baathist like Saddam.”
The Assad regime couldn’t stand Saddam and was the only majority Arab country – Assad’s father and he were Alawites – to back Iran in its war with Iraq during the 1980s.
Did you know Syrian troops were involved in the 1991 war against Iraq?
I don’t know why we didn’t, nor how long it will take until we do, provide an aircap over Syria. Probably more about Russia than anything else, or more likely a perceived limitation on our ability to be waring with 3 arab nations at a time? It would have been support for Israel and pressure on Iran. I would do it asap.
Put yourself in the boots of Asad. What would YOU do? He sounds like any good Western hero to me: Death before Dishonor. Heh, heh. The UN really should buy up those man made islands that look like the globe just off Dubai===use them to sequester the worlds tyrants and dictators. You know, they really do need someplace to go when we demand they leave. Start building more islands too.
Think more about Asad. A leader totally evil denying FREEEEEEDOM to his peoples. How much different than the Republican Party?
Its just an exercise.
Gee whiz – a murderous dictator and his thugs vs. the murderous Muslin fanatics. Who to back?
Can I flip a quarter? Several thousand times?
My first reaction: agreeing laughter.
Second thought as posed: yes, who to back??
Syria is simply Iran in Drag. Pressure on Syria is Pressure on Iran. I think its valid to stop Nuke Proliferation in Third World Fundamental or Muslim Nations.
Therefore, let loose the Dogs of War and “♫ Bomb, Bomb, Bomb..” the proxy.
“… Fundamental or Muslim Nations…”
Actually, Syria has a decent amount of religious and ethnic pluralism including Orthodox Christians. They all must be politically subservient to the Assad regime, unfortunately.
Iraq didn’t have any al-Qaeda elements before the U.S. invasion in 2003. I don’t think Syria had or has now either. Without a doubt, Sunnite extremists financed by the Gulf oil states have been fighting in Syria.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend – still seems to apply through much of the Middle East and apparently U.S. policy as well.
Then why was Clinton’s counterterrorrism head Richard Clarke worried that Osama would ‘boogie to Baghdad’?
Richard Clarke was referring to the possibility that if Osama bin Laden was flushed out of Afghanistan that he would go to Iraq.
Contacts were made between Al-Qaeda and the Iraqi government in the late 1990s. Nothing happened further to develop the contacts on an “operational” basis. Certainly, no link that led to the September 11, 2001 attacks.
Testifying at a hearing, a map of the world was presented with certain countries shaded and others clear. The shaded countries had Al-Qaeda elements and the clear countries did not.
The U.S. was shaded, and Iraq was clear.
Hey Cranky–thanks for the intelligent disagreement/refinement? But the “or” is meant to heap scorn on Fundamentalists while highlighting that all (arab?) muslims are basically Rock Age Terrorists not fit for the 21st Century.
I do wonder how much of your nuanced position is overly grounded in just how backward Saudi Arabia and many other Gulf States are? Women and foreigners so totally repressed some of them actually like it? Ha, ha. I dither.
Yes–First Lebanon was the Jewel in Progressive Arab thinking, then Jordan, then Syria. Hard to be progressive in reality when being led by a feudal caste system?
Doesn’t matter how liberal in some ways Syria might be or could be. They are led by a fundamentalist tyrant the stooge of Iran or Russia depending on the interest at hand.
USA ought to come to grips with the Muslim Religion ASAP to reduce the future turmoil. Want to establish as a tenant of your religion a State Mandated Relgion?===>then you are a terrorist to be immediately deported.
Simple. Pedro will complain they won’t make such a picture in HollyWoodLand these days. But what rational person cares about that either?
Politics—where bad ideas will kill you.
The U.S. has supported Muslim fundamentalist groups in Libya with connections to Al-Qaeda, and U.S. allies in the Persian Gulf – undoubtedly, with the knowledge of the U.S. – have sent fighters and arms to Syria.
Saudi Arabia, the main supporter of the ultra-conservative Wahabism movement, is a huge U.S. ally in the region.
Most of the world’s muslims are not Arab. The largest Muslim country in the world is Indonesia.
The Syrian government is dictatorial, but I wouldn’t classify it as “fundamentalist” as Saudi Arabia or Iran.
We agree. The disagreements but quibbles and word play.
Assad is a totally secular government. That is why Syrian Christians rally to his side as well as the Shia, because the alternative is letting the head-chopping Salafist sunni foreign fighters take power and begin religiously cleansing the country.
We will sort this out as soon as Barry finds the “red line of courage”.
So Nextlie==as a real He of a Man, last week you would have wanted ObamaGod to bomb Syria because they used Chemical Weapons? And now—maybe they didn’t???
that kind of He of a Man?
Nextlie===admit it. You are a sniveling idiot! Either that, or you know all about the details of the Syrian quagmire. How do you know these details Nextlie???
Care to tell the Next Lie???
Ha, ha. I dither. Very diplomatic thing to do when war is hot.
Barry is doing just fine, thank you. We don’t need another crazy, hair trigger POTUS on a mission to price he’s tough.
Prove
“War is hell” – William T. Sherman
But, again, why not simply neutron bomb the entire Middle East, as a service to humanity?
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I agree THAT was over the line.
Close call though. If you were throwing hand grenades, I’d be taken out too?
Always a delicate balance.
MPod==you were finding the limit on purpose weren’t you? Bad Boy.