What you need to know about the swine flu vaccination campaign

Published on August 23rd, 2009

Government health officials are mobilizing to launch a massive swine flu vaccination campaign this fall that is unprecedented in its scope — and in the potential for complications.

The campaign aims to vaccinate at least half the country’s population within months. Although more people have been inoculated against diseases such as smallpox and polio over a period of years, the United States has never tried to immunize so many so quickly.

This is so funny:

Among the unknowns: how many shots people will need, what the correct dosage should be, and how to avoid confusing the public with an overlapping effort to combat the regular seasonal flu.

What I fear:

The campaign is haunted by memories of the government’s ill-fated 1976 effort to vaccinate against swine flu. The epidemic fizzled, but the vaccine was given to 40 million people and blamed for causing a rare paralyzing disorder known as Guillain-Barré Syndrome.

Another wild card will be whether the vaccine will be delivered with an “adjuvant” to boost its effectiveness or stretch limited supplies into more doses. Adjuvants have been used in Europe, but the Food and Drug Administration has not authorized their use in the United States.

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# 1 Weary Reaper said, on August 23rd, 2009 at 12:43 pm

NO COMMENT

# 2 Tim Yates said, on August 23rd, 2009 at 1:10 pm

“Although the vaccine will be free…”

I always hate it when someone refers to Government spending as something that is “FREE”. It’s not free, I have prepaid for a vaccine that I will not take.

# 3 Improbus said, on August 23rd, 2009 at 1:15 pm

I will wait and see what it does to the ~~guinea pigs~~ “first responders”.

# 4 Ah_Yea said, on August 23rd, 2009 at 1:18 pm

Improbus got there first.

Yup, I have no objection to letting someone else try it first.

I’ll just stay away from the fast food potatoes and sit this one out.

# 5 Stars & Bars said, on August 23rd, 2009 at 1:34 pm

Something else is going on.

http://drtenpenny.com/Documents/The_Truth_about_the_Flu_Shot.pdf

# 6 dusanmal said, on August 23rd, 2009 at 2:02 pm

I’ll take advice of my sister, Pediatric Neurologist at the major university hospital with wall full of research and clinical awards. Neither she or her family (including children) nor any of her staff will take H1N1 vaccine… This is the first time I heard her advocating against any form of vaccination. (As this was exchanged in private communication I am not including her name, but creative Googling using my info will definitely bring her and her credentials up for confirmation.)

# 7 The Witch Doctor said, on August 23rd, 2009 at 2:30 pm

Oooh eeee oooh ah ah!
bing bang! walla walla bing bang!

# 8 gadlaw said, on August 23rd, 2009 at 2:35 pm

Hey there Dusanmal, this whole flu seems to be a very scary thing and I have creatively googled and all of that. Is there anything you can link to that gives a good look at why this vaccine is to be avoided. Are the links here any good? Often times there is the tinfoil hat brigade that comes out no matter what is going on which is a lot like the Boy who cried Wolf. – It ends up making legitimate worries unheard since we hear and dismiss a lot of the stuff we hear as ‘noise’. Thanks much.

# 9 bobbo, very telling dismal said, on August 23rd, 2009 at 2:36 pm

#6–”why” does your sister recommend not taking this vaccine?

Would she confirm or deny that even if we include for arguments sake that much of aids, at least in Africa, is caused by vaccines, the benefits of vaccines FAR EXCEEDS the harm?

Also just check base for us: how many people would have to die in the USA before she reconsidered her opinion.

Please get back to us before December so I don’t have to google her for updates.

Thanks much.

# 10 noname said, on August 23rd, 2009 at 2:39 pm

I wish people would see this for what it is. The swine flu vaccination campaign is nothing more then a Trial Run. There are many other “mundane and acceptable” diseases/accidents killing more people that the money spent here could stop.

The government is concerned about a remote potential for a Russian driven Smallpox Attack.

# 11 TripHamer said, on August 23rd, 2009 at 2:43 pm

I’ll pass on this one also. Never had a flu shot and never will.

# 12 noname said, on August 23rd, 2009 at 2:57 pm

# 11 TripHamer, not if the government makes it madatory. You may think, the courts have said no, but; look what President Andrew Jackson did when the courts said no.

# 13 Dallas said, on August 23rd, 2009 at 3:05 pm

Glad Obama government taking proactive action to protect the public. We sure don’t need another Katrina-Bush response to a predicable public health issue.

# 14 Improbus said, on August 23rd, 2009 at 3:06 pm

Lincoln shit on the Constitution as well by suspending Habeas Corpus.

# 15 Universal said, on August 23rd, 2009 at 3:20 pm

scary stuff indeed i whonder how this thing is gonna turn out

# 16 noname said, on August 23rd, 2009 at 3:21 pm

I wish Obama would stand by his campaign pledges and handle Guantanamo Bay, Cuba detainees in the U.S. courts.

Because he is listening to government officials in the DoD/NSA/CIA/FBI/DoJ trying to cover their ass, instead of; holding to his campaign pledges and what the public wants, I consider him a coward.

People say he is just being practical, I say, he is a coward.

And just like his Guantanamo Bay campaign pledges, he is talking about folding on heath care.

Supporters of Obama (I am a supporter) should call it as it is, Obama is being a coward!!!!!

# 17 stalinvlad said, on August 23rd, 2009 at 3:34 pm

Now see Bill Gates gets big claps for vaccines in Africa, look his helping those poor fucking niggers
But when it comes to the good old US of A, any old rightwing twat can stand up and spout off anyold UFO style crap so as many of you as is possible will die
AND he can still call BG a big fucking cunt, on account of his big fucking pile

Way to go Dvortwat

# 18 Popp Boner said, on August 23rd, 2009 at 3:36 pm

I’ll make my pig aware, thanks!

# 19 Special Ed said, on August 23rd, 2009 at 3:49 pm

Could they just try it out on the religious people first? Show up at churches, tell them some nitwit had a vision and Jeebus wants them to have the shot.

# 20 SparkyOne said, on August 23rd, 2009 at 4:20 pm

I have three chronic illnesses and i’ll be damned if anyone is going to jab me.

# 21 Hugh Ripper said, on August 23rd, 2009 at 5:00 pm

#7 Its walla walla ting tang

# 22 Doctor of The Witch Doctor said, on August 23rd, 2009 at 5:08 pm

Uh eh uh ahah ting tang wata bing bang … Uh Ah Ah Ting Tang Walla Walla Bing Bang

hh eh uh ah ah ting tang walla

# 23 Troublemaker said, on August 23rd, 2009 at 5:37 pm

gadlaw said, on August 23rd, 2009 at 2:35 pm

If you’ve done the research than you should have learned that the regular flu virus kills about 50,000 Americans every year.

This strain has, so far, proven to be less virulent than the regular strain.

# 24 Troublemaker said, on August 23rd, 2009 at 5:59 pm

This should tell you all you need to know about the subject…

Excerpt from: http://sott.net/articles/show/190455-No-Surprise-Wal-Mart-weighs-role-in-U-S-H1N1-vaccination-plans

(No) Surprise! Wal-Mart weighs role in U.S. H1N1 vaccination plans

Barbara Liston
Reuters
Sat, 01 Aug 2009 22:49 UTC

Wal-Mart Stores Inc is discussing with U.S. health officials the possibility of putting vaccination sites at some of its stores for an H1N1 swine flu inoculation campaign this fall, a company official said on Thursday.

Federal officials met with Wal-Mart executives on Wednesday in Arkansas to discuss the issue, Dr. John Agwunobi, president of health and wellness for Wal-Mart U.S., told public health leaders at a conference in Orlando.

“We are in discussions with CDC (U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) and others in local and state departments to see what role we might play,” Agwunobi said. “It might be we are a site. It may be help with logistics and with supply chain.”

Agwunobi said 140 million people walk through the doors of its 4,000 U.S. stores each week.

# 25 Ah_Yea said, on August 23rd, 2009 at 6:21 pm

And of course WalMart takes a cut for every shot given…

# 26 School of Tawt said, on August 23rd, 2009 at 6:52 pm

I love statements like this “the benefits far exceed the harm” when they are referring to shooting up all sorts of bizarre crap up your veins. Why do people think they have to be subject to any harm in order to be well? The body heals itself. You don’t have to bash the hell out of your cells for them to wake up and heal. You don’t have to shoot up animal puss with added viruses up your veins in order to form a protective shield. That’s all medical witchcraft and none of it is covered by Hippocratic Oath insurance. Here’s a copy of that oath for your convenience. Print it out and take it to your doctor or WHO or NIH or “death panel” or “fabulous perfect new President” and have them sign that they have read and understand it. What will you do if they are not willing to sign such an agreement, as they then shove ones in your face releasing them from all liability?

The Hippocratic Oath

I swear by Apollo Physician and Asclepius and Hygieia and Panaceia and all the gods, and goddesses, making them my witnesses, that I will fulfil according to my ability and judgment this oath and this covenant:

To hold him who has taught me this art as equal to my parents and to live my life in partnership with him, and if he is in need of money to give him a share of mine, and to regard his offspring as equal to my brothers in male lineage and to teach them this art–if they desire to learn it–without fee and covenant; to give a share of precepts and oral instruction and all the other learning to my sons and to the sons of him who has instructed me and to pupils who have signed the covenant and have taken the oath according to medical law, but to no one else.

I will apply dietic measures for the benefit of the sick according to my ability and judgment; I will keep them from harm and injustice.

I will neither give a deadly drug to anybody if asked for it, nor will I make a suggestion to this effect. Similarly I will not give to a woman an abortive remedy. In purity and holiness I will guard my life and my art.

I will not use the knife, not even on sufferers from stone, but will withdraw in favor of such men as are engaged in this work.

Whatever houses I may visit, I will come for the benefit of the sick, remaining free of all intentional injustice, of all mischief and in particular of sexual relations with both female and male persons, be they free or slaves.

What I may see or hear in the course of treatment or even outside of the treatment in regard to the life of men, which on no account one must spread abroad, I will keep myself holding such things shameful to be spoken about.

If I fulfil this oath and do not violate it, may it be granted to me to enjoy life and art, being honored with fame among all men for all time to come; if I transgress it and swear falsely, may the opposite of all this be my lot.

One might even consider printing out a more current version, The Oath of Lasagna, which was written in 1964 by Louis Lasagna, Academic Dean of the School of Medicine at Tufts University, it is perhaps the one most commonly used in today’s medical schools. Like the other versions, it stresses on the importance of “treating patients as human beings and not medical cases”.

# 27 noname said, on August 23rd, 2009 at 7:12 pm

# 25 Ah_Yea, maybe, but I think as vaccination center, Wally gets more people in the store that may not normally shop there.

Not dumb thinking on their part.

# 28 noname said, on August 23rd, 2009 at 7:36 pm

# 26 School of Tawt, Shame on your overworked team of Psychiatrists, they forgot to tell you; you can say no, I don’t want to be vaccinated.

# 29 Dennis said, on August 23rd, 2009 at 7:56 pm

When I was in the military, we were subjected to numerous vaccines against all sorts of diseases and illness. When I was the one administering the shots for my unit, and found out that I was replacing a guy who became horribly ill after receiving the last round of shots, I looked into what was being administered. Plague #7 and Plague #9 vaccines stand out to this day, as they had never been tested in any trials, and all results had to be written and sent to the Center for Disease control. I wrote them and found out that by Plague Series #4, immunity should have set in and these last rounds were for ‘trial test purposes’. Those were the last shots I have ever taken or given.

# 30 Troublemaker said, on August 23rd, 2009 at 8:06 pm

It should also be noted that Mercury is normally used as a preservative in these sorts of vaccines vials.

# 31 Troublemaker said, on August 23rd, 2009 at 8:19 pm

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ASibLqwVbsk

# 32 Glenn E. said, on August 23rd, 2009 at 9:00 pm

First the banks get a bail out. Then the auto makers get a no interest loan. Then “cash for clunker” helps out the ailing car dealers. And not it’s sounds like a “vouchers for vaccines” is coming along. Since when does the Gov. get involved in the flu vaccine biz? Since the Gov. is their number one contractor, when it comes to buying the stuff for distribution to all US military personnel. And they’ll be the earliest to be dosed. And NO records of bad reactions will be kept. As per agreement with the vaccine makers, to they can get a crack at the public market, before any word of mouth kills their sales. And perhaps the Gov. will just come to their financial rescue, anyway. Since most cash strapped Americans may decide to risk not getting shots for new flu strain. I’ve not had a single one since, 1979. That’s when I left the US military service, and it’s medical guinea pig program. Dosing soldiers, against their wishes, is how the vaccine makers get their testing data. The low initial vaccine distribution to the public, is probably just an excuse to test it out on the service personnel first. It’s probably going on right now!

Is it ironic how Congress can’t decide on any kind of National (Public?) Health Care system? Or reforms of the messed up private one that exists today? But they can approve of funds to save the vaccine industry, easily enough. And I think this is a huge scare story, to do just that. Because it has to be the most amazing coincidence that the H1N1 flu showed up, just after the economy started seriously hurting. People losing their jobs, taking local vacations. And yet, somehow this virus spread all over the world from Mexico, in very little time. Did it have some help, on purpose?

This and other Gov. funded programs are all about protecting the bottom line of the major stockholders and CEOs, who have the ear of Congress. Stocks in Banking, Auto Sales, and the Medical industry, have benefited. And these are all bandaid fixes for what’s really wrong with these. But if props up the old way they continue to do business, so their major stockholders can count on another year of profits. The Gov. ought to label these, “Bucks for Billionaires”, because that’s where it all eventually ends up.

# 33 FEMA Camp Occupant said, on August 23rd, 2009 at 9:54 pm

If they take you by force… Try this after.

http://clareswinney.wordpress.com/2009/08/03/dr-russell-blaylock-talks-about-natural-solutions-to-help-if-you-are-forced-to-take-ah1n1-vaccine/

# 34 Uncle Patso said, on August 24th, 2009 at 2:33 am

I believe in vaccines. I have never had polio, smallpox, diphtheria, tetanus, etc. I plan to get both influenza vaccines when they are available.

# 35 Improbus said, on August 24th, 2009 at 5:58 am

Let us know how that turns out Uncle Patso. No, really, I’m curious.

# 36 ECA said, on August 24th, 2009 at 8:59 am

#16
He still has 3 years.
He has to FORCE 300 others with political agendas to AGREE.
MOST of those people that protect this country signed a Verbal contract that they would NOT BE HELD responsible, for what those ABOVE them told them to do.
WHO that was hired for the JOB, in bushes TIME, is STILL in a responsible position??
IF’ blame is going to be PASSED around, Anyone involved is either going to Run and hide behind committees.. OR say “I did what I was told.”,”HE TOLD me to do it.”,”HE did it, not me.”

For the rest of you;

Lets see. the odds of the shot causing problems in EACH person is ??.
We know that its 0.57%(?) death rate in Nations that have CHEAP health care services.
Which would mean that about 1.5 million people COULD DIE.
Even if Adverse reactions in .01% of the population. 3,000,000 people would STILL be 300. or 1 in 10,000.

“Here are some historical reminders of past flu epidemics. They were all contrived and created in some hidden laboratory.

The vaccine used in the mandated 1976 supposed swine flu “epidemic” caused the deaths of 2,000 people before it was removed; and 4,000 filed injury law suits. Before that, it was the Salk polio vaccine, also fast-tracked with $9-million of tax-payer money, to inoculate 57-million Americans before it was even proved to be safe to use. And it wasn’t. African green monkey kidney tissue was used to grow the polio virus; and it proved to have long-term and deadly effects. In 1955, the “British Medical Journal warned against the used of the Salk polio vaccine.”(2) The warning, and there were others as well, was ignored. Before genetic engineering opened a Pandora’s Box, this vaccine “was an uncontrolled experiment in interspecies viral transmission.”(3) Long-term, but not known then (in the financial rush to get this vaccine produced), the use of this monkey’s tissue was to be the cause of cancers detected much later.”
http://www.rense.com/general86/dngers.htm

OK,
if this was a REAL problem.
Dont you think we would ALL be wearing Rubber suits and Face masks 2 months ago??

# 37 ECA said, on August 24th, 2009 at 9:04 am

http://flutracker.rhizalabs.com/flu/by_US_county.html

FLUTRACKER..

CONFIRMED cases of this Flu.

http://flutracker.rhizalabs.com/flu/by_US_county_lg.png

# 38 yup_thats_right said, on August 24th, 2009 at 11:13 am

How many people have actually died from the Swine Flu? A few hundred? Tens of thousands of people die during every flu season. I have never seen such hysteria being promoted by the government, “health” care establishment and the corporatist media over ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. This is a totally bogus, hyper-inflated NOTHING obviously designed to make countless millions if not, billions, for drug manufacturers and increase the power of government. Didn’t you sad and pathetic dummies learn anything from the first “Swine Flu” nonsense that Gerald Ford and his cronies pushed in the 70’s? They try to pull this flim flam every generation or so. Maybe it’s good as it probably culls the dimmest bulbs from the herd.

# 39 ECA said, on August 24th, 2009 at 1:42 pm

whats SCARY is that they are posting WORLD WIDE NUMBERS, not just the USA..
it really inflates the numbers.

# 40 deowll said, on August 24th, 2009 at 2:53 pm

There is of course some risk in not being vaccinated against the virus. I may already have some immunity and I’m going to let others play lab rat.

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