I like LockerGnome’s mature perspective that a system’s strengths are usually its greatest weaknesses. Both Apple and Microsoft present a good out of the box experience to users, so they will both continue. Microsoft is emulating Apple somewhat, being very hush-hush on most things; they know that it is acceptable to lose a certain percentage of users in the move to a sealed environment, since the remaining users will drive them to record profits with their new 30% slice of the pie for all apps and media. Some people here commented that everyone they knew that adopted Linux a couple decades ago has left it; I’m only now preparing to move to Linux from Windows because I consider it mature enough at this point. What’s really driving me away from Windows is that MS has embraced the “sealed environment” where apps need to be installed via their Market Place, and I dislike that level of control. Plus, I want a power-user desktop experience and MS is pushing a pretty odd desktop with the advent of Win8; if only they had allowed true desktop customizability, but no — they are going the Apple route, make no mistake about it. They envy Apple’s profits. They will emulate Apple to a frightening degree, as the years roll on. The guard at MS has changed, and whatever they roll out next is anyone’s guess. Businesses like to be able to depend on something consistent, and this has always worked in the favor of Microsoft — BUT NO MORE. I think their crazy moves are going to help Linux. A LOT.
No offense, but you lose a lot of credibility if you mention LockerGnome as one of your “reliable” resources and mind you, I’m saying this as a systems engineer for almost 26 years for a large multinational.
Hello.
I respect MS Windows a lot, because it started the real ¨standarization¨ of many uncompatible O/S for the desktop PC existing in the 80´s and 90´s. (Remember Amiga, Commodore, PCM and so on?). I´m a user of Windows for his user friendliness and LOTS of DRIVERS for just anything. But… let´s aknowledge that Windows has many ¨backdoors¨ that Linux (as a good UNIX-like O/S) has not… Linux has security built-in in the kernel itself. But Linux was not user-friendly until the advent of Distros like Ubuntu or Mint, that are cheap (in fact: free), with almost any drivers in the kernel and are a lot user-friendly than older Linux(es). So I guess that in the future a lot of peeople (like me) will be using both O/S. And many will migrate to Linux because it is free and secure. Thanks.
“And many will migrate to Linux because it is free and secure. Thanks.”
No they wont. Most people that leave Windows buy a $1,500 Mac, which only confirms that “free” is not enough to lure people to Linux. As for security; most people don’t care, because Windows 7 and especially 8 have become so secure, that only talented hackers could bypass its security and that raises the question why a talented hacker would target the average John and Jane with so many other and better opportunities.
Secondly, how many people who use a tablet have expressed publicly that they care about security? Indeed, very few….it only shows that also “security” is not something that will lure enough people to Linux.
Linux is too late as a desktop OS. Windows 98, ME….they were unstable, slow, insecure, difficult to use…that’s when Linux had its opportunity, but it failed to take it.
After Dad spending a lot of hell on Mom’s computer (Which used to be my own until I got a better one) using Umbutu mainly trying to get Virtual Box to work Dad finally re installed XP but it’s going to be offline.
Please read my story below if you are intrested in further details. I experience anxiety attacks from time to time and am going thru one now so I gotta go!
Update: Linux desktop is not ready for the average impatient person at this point. I spent an entire week experimenting with three Linux distros: Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Linux Mint KDE. The desktop experience has made huge gains the last couple of years, but the KDE & Unity desktops need a bit of refinement still. I’m glad for every kick in the pants both Linux and Apple are doing to Microsoft, to get them improving. I can’t wait to see Canonical’s new desktop they come out with when it is ready a couple years down the road. I initially felt I was punched in the eyes by Win8′s latest “madness”, but overall Win8 is installing and functioning more solidly and efficient than ever. In Win8 MS moved the graphics driver to kernel level to make it operate faster (like Apple did), and the unified print driver works like a charm. It’s nice having several fine choices.
I agree that Linux is not exactly great for the mainsteam Enterprise user, but it has come along way from the isolated Computer Engineer user only aspect. SnapTech, the users you mention are virtually of the same family of distros. Have your tried Fedora 18, DSL, SolusOS, Puppy Linux, Debian, Mandriva, Parsix, Arch Linux, Gentoo, etc? The list goes on. I”m a noob and I have had very little problem with Ubuntu & Mint, successfully manually setup Arch Linux, and had not issues at all with SolusOS. I went through all these becuase Win8 on an HP ENVY dv7 7243cl is not practical. Keep in mind that Microsoft donates money into the Linux community for a purpose of it’s own.
Well these are some of the reasons why i dislike linux too, especially the fact that some people like it for no particular genuine reason and some citing reasons like customizablility, security, etc. To me windows is the best with a fantastic user experience and everything’s compatible.
To make a very long story short MS did some things that wrecked my parents computers.
Now forst of all:
Please forgive me of my bad grammar but I have autism and suck at linking events together and almost failed in English because of that but I am trying my best so bear with me.
Mom’s Windows XP computer had two updates in February that wouldn’t do anything and they got rid of the option to hide it as Dad taught her how to do it and was shocked you couldn’t hide it and then Microsoft pulled the plug on support further screwing her.
Now my parents have two computers.
One in the den that Mom uses and the living room one which the living room one has Win 7 and Mom’s has XP. Mom’s computer which is 10 years old used to be mine until I got a newer one that runs faster.
So anyways: Microsoft rudely stopped supporting windows XP meaning no protection for Mom period. None, zippo!
I’ll post more in my next post to make it not look like a huge wall of text.
The first two weekends of Feb was spent waiting for the disc which was asinine slow to arrive.
Then it finally arrived but Dad found out that Mom’s computer which used to be my old one is a 64 bit one and we always thought it was 32 bit so Dad first tried putting the 32 bit Linux and couldn’t figure out why it was running so damn slow.
It took 6 hours to load and takes 10 minutes to do one thing so he tried several settings and help support before one night after *sleeping on the problem* realized Mom’s computer is a 64 bit one. Not a 32 bit machine.
I’ll post more if anybody is interested as I just realized I don’t want to waste anybody’s time.
Keep up with the times they stop xp because it was old wake up and buy 7/8 i don’t blame them to stop supporting xp because it is almost dead we are into more advanced systems
How are you? Thanks for sharing your story. I hope all is getting better in time. Over time I believe you can overcome, and control your anxieties, it will take time, but you will have plenty.
As for Linux, im moving to it soon to try it out as a testbed, we’ll see how it goes, wish me luck.
I like LockerGnome’s mature perspective that a system’s strengths are usually its greatest weaknesses. Both Apple and Microsoft present a good out of the box experience to users, so they will both continue. Microsoft is emulating Apple somewhat, being very hush-hush on most things; they know that it is acceptable to lose a certain percentage of users in the move to a sealed environment, since the remaining users will drive them to record profits with their new 30% slice of the pie for all apps and media. Some people here commented that everyone they knew that adopted Linux a couple decades ago has left it; I’m only now preparing to move to Linux from Windows because I consider it mature enough at this point. What’s really driving me away from Windows is that MS has embraced the “sealed environment” where apps need to be installed via their Market Place, and I dislike that level of control. Plus, I want a power-user desktop experience and MS is pushing a pretty odd desktop with the advent of Win8; if only they had allowed true desktop customizability, but no — they are going the Apple route, make no mistake about it. They envy Apple’s profits. They will emulate Apple to a frightening degree, as the years roll on. The guard at MS has changed, and whatever they roll out next is anyone’s guess. Businesses like to be able to depend on something consistent, and this has always worked in the favor of Microsoft — BUT NO MORE. I think their crazy moves are going to help Linux. A LOT.
No offense, but you lose a lot of credibility if you mention LockerGnome as one of your “reliable” resources and mind you, I’m saying this as a systems engineer for almost 26 years for a large multinational.
Hello.
I respect MS Windows a lot, because it started the real ¨standarization¨ of many uncompatible O/S for the desktop PC existing in the 80´s and 90´s. (Remember Amiga, Commodore, PCM and so on?). I´m a user of Windows for his user friendliness and LOTS of DRIVERS for just anything. But… let´s aknowledge that Windows has many ¨backdoors¨ that Linux (as a good UNIX-like O/S) has not… Linux has security built-in in the kernel itself. But Linux was not user-friendly until the advent of Distros like Ubuntu or Mint, that are cheap (in fact: free), with almost any drivers in the kernel and are a lot user-friendly than older Linux(es). So I guess that in the future a lot of peeople (like me) will be using both O/S. And many will migrate to Linux because it is free and secure. Thanks.
“And many will migrate to Linux because it is free and secure. Thanks.”
No they wont. Most people that leave Windows buy a $1,500 Mac, which only confirms that “free” is not enough to lure people to Linux. As for security; most people don’t care, because Windows 7 and especially 8 have become so secure, that only talented hackers could bypass its security and that raises the question why a talented hacker would target the average John and Jane with so many other and better opportunities.
Secondly, how many people who use a tablet have expressed publicly that they care about security? Indeed, very few….it only shows that also “security” is not something that will lure enough people to Linux.
Linux is too late as a desktop OS. Windows 98, ME….they were unstable, slow, insecure, difficult to use…that’s when Linux had its opportunity, but it failed to take it.
They won’t target John and Jane. Only government agents would with false flags or people from other countries who hate the foundations of the USA.
After Dad spending a lot of hell on Mom’s computer (Which used to be my own until I got a better one) using Umbutu mainly trying to get Virtual Box to work Dad finally re installed XP but it’s going to be offline.
Please read my story below if you are intrested in further details. I experience anxiety attacks from time to time and am going thru one now so I gotta go!
Update: Linux desktop is not ready for the average impatient person at this point. I spent an entire week experimenting with three Linux distros: Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Linux Mint KDE. The desktop experience has made huge gains the last couple of years, but the KDE & Unity desktops need a bit of refinement still. I’m glad for every kick in the pants both Linux and Apple are doing to Microsoft, to get them improving. I can’t wait to see Canonical’s new desktop they come out with when it is ready a couple years down the road. I initially felt I was punched in the eyes by Win8′s latest “madness”, but overall Win8 is installing and functioning more solidly and efficient than ever. In Win8 MS moved the graphics driver to kernel level to make it operate faster (like Apple did), and the unified print driver works like a charm. It’s nice having several fine choices.
I agree that Linux is not exactly great for the mainsteam Enterprise user, but it has come along way from the isolated Computer Engineer user only aspect. SnapTech, the users you mention are virtually of the same family of distros. Have your tried Fedora 18, DSL, SolusOS, Puppy Linux, Debian, Mandriva, Parsix, Arch Linux, Gentoo, etc? The list goes on. I”m a noob and I have had very little problem with Ubuntu & Mint, successfully manually setup Arch Linux, and had not issues at all with SolusOS. I went through all these becuase Win8 on an HP ENVY dv7 7243cl is not practical. Keep in mind that Microsoft donates money into the Linux community for a purpose of it’s own.
Well these are some of the reasons why i dislike linux too, especially the fact that some people like it for no particular genuine reason and some citing reasons like customizablility, security, etc. To me windows is the best with a fantastic user experience and everything’s compatible.
To make a very long story short MS did some things that wrecked my parents computers.
Now forst of all:
Please forgive me of my bad grammar but I have autism and suck at linking events together and almost failed in English because of that but I am trying my best so bear with me.
Mom’s Windows XP computer had two updates in February that wouldn’t do anything and they got rid of the option to hide it as Dad taught her how to do it and was shocked you couldn’t hide it and then Microsoft pulled the plug on support further screwing her.
Now my parents have two computers.
One in the den that Mom uses and the living room one which the living room one has Win 7 and Mom’s has XP. Mom’s computer which is 10 years old used to be mine until I got a newer one that runs faster.
So anyways: Microsoft rudely stopped supporting windows XP meaning no protection for Mom period. None, zippo!
I’ll post more in my next post to make it not look like a huge wall of text.
The first two weekends of Feb was spent waiting for the disc which was asinine slow to arrive.
Then it finally arrived but Dad found out that Mom’s computer which used to be my old one is a 64 bit one and we always thought it was 32 bit so Dad first tried putting the 32 bit Linux and couldn’t figure out why it was running so damn slow.
It took 6 hours to load and takes 10 minutes to do one thing so he tried several settings and help support before one night after *sleeping on the problem* realized Mom’s computer is a 64 bit one. Not a 32 bit machine.
I’ll post more if anybody is interested as I just realized I don’t want to waste anybody’s time.
Let’s just say the last month sucked so bad I’ve been tempted to kill myself because I have been so depressed I could hardly think or do anything.
Keep up with the times they stop xp because it was old wake up and buy 7/8 i don’t blame them to stop supporting xp because it is almost dead we are into more advanced systems
Hail Kyle,
How are you? Thanks for sharing your story. I hope all is getting better in time. Over time I believe you can overcome, and control your anxieties, it will take time, but you will have plenty.
As for Linux, im moving to it soon to try it out as a testbed, we’ll see how it goes, wish me luck.
~Be well.