We readily give up our freedoms for safety. Just as Orwell and others predicted.

FBI wants instant access to British identity data
Senior British police officials are talking to the FBI about an international database to hunt for major criminals and terrorists.

The US-initiated programme, “Server in the Sky”, would take cooperation between the police forces way beyond the current faxing of fingerprints across the Atlantic. Allies in the “war against terror” – the US, UK, Australia, Canada and New Zealand – have formed a working group, the International Information Consortium, to plan their strategy. Biometric measurements, irises or palm prints as well as fingerprints, and other personal information are likely to be exchanged across the network. One section will feature the world’s most wanted suspects. The database could hold details of millions of criminals and suspects.

The FBI is keen for the police forces of American allies to sign up to improve international security. The Home Office yesterday confirmed it was aware of Server in the Sky, as did the Metropolitan police.

And then there’s this about how we’re training those who will administer the new watchful state where vote fraud is easy. BTW, the Brit cops are now beating up peace protesters. We here in the states, of course, would have been more civilized and Tased him to death, bro.

  1. chuck says:

    Here’s the headline 6 months from now:
    “FBI admits hackers breached biometric security database”

    – all your private data is now freely available.

  2. Improbus says:

    Here’s the headline 12 months from now:
    “FBI biometric security database shutdown because of late payments.”

  3. Ranger007 says:

    But for those six months Americans will feel so much “Safer”. Just ask them.

  4. gregallen says:

    The FBI has been watching CSI and — dang it! — they want those cool gadgets too!

    Seriously, we need a privacy amendment to the constitution.

    Modern privacy issues were not even possible to conceive 230 years ago.

    For starters, we need clarification on who owns our private information.

    Is it right that someone else owns your private information an has a right to sell it? That’s the way US law has evolved and I think it’s wrong and needs to be fixed. I can’t imagine the founding fathers would have condoned the current situation, had they seen it coming.

  5. iGlobalWarmer says:

    What’s wrong with beating up a peace protester? Anyone who would actually stand on a street corner with a sign trying to act like we don’t even need a military needs to be smacked.

  6. the answer says:

    But if they don’t have this info already ( iris scans, biometrics ) Then how can they build this network? That is the part I never get. Maybe just scan in the real bad guys and keep the rest out?

  7. OhForTheLoveOf says:

    #4 – For starters, we need clarification on who owns our private information.

    I need no clarification. I know that I and I alone own my information. I’m just waiting… and waiting… and waiting… and waiting… for the United States to get on board.

    After careful consideration, I’ve decided not to hold my breath.

  8. GetSmart says:

    Welcome to the meaningless data world. The chances of any of their information being correct: LOW.
    The chances of any of it being secure: NONE.
    The chance of EVERYONE being automatically assumed guilty: TOTAL.
    Garbage IN. Garbage OUT.

  9. Uncle Dave says:

    #7: Walk down the street in any major city and you’re seen on multiple video cameras. Some of them are probably scanning retinas, especially if you are in an airport, etc.

    Don’t forget, the highest tech that gets reported on was developed years ago. The current secret tech is miles ahead of where you think it is.

  10. GetSmart says:

    #9 – And the new secret crap won’t work very well either. Not that it matters to the dimfuck fascist asshats running things.

  11. iGlobalWarmer says:

    #9 – Yes, and it’s ultracool to think of what’s out there right now. All technology is cool.

  12. edwinrogers says:

    Anyone notice how Orwell’s name appears whenever a new security measure is implemented? Is data already in government databases being used within the original intent and purpose, or is there some new cleverness to illicit personal information without the consent of the information owners? Yes, information about you is your private property.

  13. iGlobalWarmer says:

    As some random douchebag once said:

    “Tick, Tick

    Fellow citizens, the truth is that our present can only be as stable as our future.

    For too long we have hobbled from decade to decade, generation to generation, and millennium to millennium, myopically adhering to superfluous battles that can never be won. Never once as a species forwarding or embracing an all encompassing path towards a certainly better future.

    Our excuses have been many, our reasoning mostly incoherent, and our lack of vision as a species, certainly fatal.

    For in the meantime, as each tick of the ages has passed, the critical threats posed and ignored by our species discordance have increased exponentially.

    Pandemic famine and disease, massively destructive weapons, fatal atmospheric and climate change, super volcanic eruptions, catastrophic space body impacts, Orwellian societies of unparalleled oppression, and many other global catastrophes too numerous to list here, waiting to befall us at any moment.

    In fact, one of the most immediate and ominous threats facing America and much of the world today is the utilization of advanced technologies for the implementation of authoritarian control over societies.

    My friends, the truth is that if we do not fight for and secure freedom today, the time will very soon come when it will be almost impossible to do so.

    In retrospect, when one soberly considers the critical challenges that we must face together to survive as a species, our differences, at times, can become almost imperceptible.

  14. Phillep says:

    All those invasive “security” measures in England, and the crime rate is still high? (The authorities are probably fighting crime fighting in order to increase crime so they can gain more control. Just wait until they tighten up.)

    As for punching out “peaceful demonstrators”, I need to see some video shot by someone without an interest in the event before accepting anyone’s word on what happened. If I’d been cornered in Seattle when those “peaceful” demonstrations against the WTO were going on, I’d have shot my way out. They were not “peaceful” by any means. (Google “black block”)

  15. m!mic says:

    Nice consortium name IIC! I feel all icky just thinking about it.

  16. iGlobalWarmer says:

    I wonder if we could someday build Britney Spears a new brain?

  17. iGlobalWarmer says:

    Accidental and unintentional cross-post. So sorry.

  18. Phillep says:

    iGW, simple removal of whatever is there now would be an enormous improvement.

  19. MikeN says:

    From what I can see it’s the Brits invading people’s privacy, and the Feds are taking a peek at the database.

    The real problem is the great access to personal data people are willing to allow. Why are cars being registered?

  20. Phillep says:

    Mike, small boats were not registered until banks started loaning on them. I wonder if it started the same for cars, and the “WE SHALL CONTROL” took control?

  21. ECA says:

    1. If they can get this type of DATA from Britain, they will SOON ask it of congress, and the People of the USA.
    2. They are ALREADY suggesting that ALL USA citizens BE REQUIRED to have a Passport and OTHER data to make SURE you are NOT an illegal immigrant.
    3. HOW secure do you REALLY want to feel?? Do you want to loose your rights to have a gun? Do you want ALL problems to Go thru the courts, which COSTS MORE MONEY, and takes 3 years to GET TO?? Do you want your ABILITY to disapline your kids to GO OUT THE DOOR?? Do you WANt the Gov to be your BABY sitter??

    and WHOM do you think is in charge of the Government?? NOT You and ME…

  22. Greg Allen says:

    OhForTheLoveOf said, >>> I need no clarification. I know that I and I alone own my information. I’m just waiting… and waiting… and waiting… and waiting… for the United States to get on board.

    Clearly you WISH you owned your own private data but you do not. Take your personal credit history — you clearly don’t own that. Anyone with with a little money can buy that and a corporation will sell it — all without your permission or without even informing you that they have it or have sold it.

    The same goes for information about your purchasing habits, reading habits, etc. etc.

    I think it is wrong and I think it’s un-American but that’s the way it is.

  23. GF says:

    “All your base are belong to us”

  24. ECA says:

    I WISH I could SELL my NAME, MYSELF…And make the money these folks are from USING MY NAME.

  25. ECA says:

    Stupid question…

    CAN I COPYRIGHT MY ID..My name??

    And What recourse do i GAIN??

  26. Norman Speight says:

    Now. Do you notice.
    (1)The more information collected, by security people the safer we get?
    (2)More technology equals better results?
    (3)More rules equals less offences?
    (1) Quis custodiet ipsos custodes
    (2) What. Like in Iraq I presume?
    (3) So. Since we employ political masters who do nothing else but pass laws crime/offences have declined?
    Rest easy worriers, the morons who will run this lot have no more idea what to do with information than George Bush knows about just what the hell is going to fall out of his mouth next. True. there will be those who are falsely accused, detained, harassed. But that has always been the way. To assume that such individuals or organisations will win, is to assume that the thick will triumph over the thinking.
    Now I can’t subscribe to that even in my most drunken moments. My attitude to encourage more of it, let the buggers drown in a sea of information which decreases in usefulness the more you gather. Britsh Police, you should know, spend just 18% of their duty time dealing with crime, the rest is in the nick filling out forms. Lastly. Have you not noticed that the head of Interpol has just been charged with serious bribary charges. He is accused on evidence trails which deserve a place on moronic crooks items in Dvorak Blog. Don’t despair, look at the cock-ups, look at the management. Neanderthal man is not extinct he carries a badge these days.

  27. ECA says:

    Is supposed to go, something, Like this…
    AS LONG as 1/3+ of the people WANT to do it, IT SHOULDNT be against the LAW..

    For some reason, the LAW, doesnt SEE it like this.
    THIS ideal alone would empty about 1/3 of the Jails and prisons.. and lower COSTS..


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