the Three-Headed Cat™ says:

bobbo – I am struck down by a lung infection, but I will share a little something with you and any other non-ideologue who has the courage to go where the science leads and not start out with a naive political idea and then try to bend science to fit, and to deny science when it doesn’t support your predetermined, unscientific conclusions.

You won’t do it, of course – no one does. It’s much easier to flap ones gums and rant than to learn from some of the most respected scientific authorities alive – so I will commend these all-important books to your attention, knowing full well that you don’t care enough about fact and truth to actually read and try to understand them:

Richard Dawkins’ The Selfish Gene

Goddamn spam filter. The other two links are in the next msg…

Those works are by three of the world’s authorities on the subject, who also happen to be among the most respected scientists alive.

…and thinkers, as opposed to brainwashed parrots, can get a reasonably clear overview of the dogmatic and dishonest Marxist PC rejection of science from this excerpt from a review of Wilson’s monumental work, On Human Nature:

Yet despite the solidity of Wilson’s research, when “On Human Nature” first came out, it was viciously attacked by left-wing ideologues who violently disagreed with Wilson’s conclusions regarding the limitations of man’s nature. The Left, of course, wants to believe that human nature is largely fluid and malleable. Man, leftists argue, is the product, not of genetics or biology, but of social conditions, which can be changed. Under a “just” society, human nature would become transformed and evil would virtually disappear from the world. Wilson’s “On Human Nature” thoroughly demolishes all these sterile hopes for man’s secular salvation. Using scientific evidence, he demonstrates that most human behavior is genetic (or related to or influenced by genetics) and therefore unalterable. The sociologist Vilfredo Pareto has probably described this view of man most trenchantly when he wrote: “The centuries roll by, and human nature remains the same!” In “On Human Nature,” Wilson shows us why Pareto is right.

Once you actually learn something about the subject, some facts instead of multiculti bullshit propaganda, you will hide your head in shame for ever having been fooled into so loudly proclaiming such total nonsense. And you should. 🙂

the Three-Headed Cat™ says:

…and number three:

E.O. Wilson’s Sociobiology: The New Synthesis

J says:

#101 the three headed putz

I am quite familiar with 2 of those works. I doubt YOU read any of them. If you did I am certain in at least 2 of them that you didn’t understood what you read. I will leave The Blank Slate for later after you use it to bury yourself a little further.

Nice try though. You take what is legitimate scientific debate and mis represent it to fit your racist beliefs. Nowhere in “The Selfish Gene” or “Sociobiology:The New Synthesis” do they segment out particular races for particular behaviors. They discuss behavior in general for the human species and how biology has a part to play in HUMAN behavior.

Wow you really are a dolt. Despite the fact that 2 of these book were written 20+ years ago. The concept of nurture vs nature is still in debate. Yet you string them out in order to add some kind of legitimacy to your argument as if they were well founded fact. They are not. That shows your actual knowledge or lack there of about the issue. Lets not forget people even today can read and use a book, the Bible and Koran, to justify their bigotry and hatred. It doesn’t mean they are correct and it doesn’t mean they understood what was written.

I will do you a favor. Here are some of your comments again. If you can please post the page number and quote from The Selfish Gene and or Sociobiology:The New Synthesis that backs up each of these statements.

“What you don’t grasp is the higher average intelligence of Asians versus Hispanics” – the three headed cat
“Here’s the shocker – the cop taking the bribes? MEXICAN. Not black, not white, not Asian. – and NOT A COINCIDENCE.” – the three headed cat

“A Chinese peasant makes more money, they will seek education – if not for themselves, for their children. An Hispanic peasant makes more money, he buys a big TV or chrome rims for his F-150″ – the three headed cat

#104 the three headed dickwad

“They’re all brainwashed clowns who have no fact to back them up, but every kind of illogic, distortion, fallacy and misrepresentation known to man. And it’s amazing how they’re all correct, yet the very people who know far far more than they ever could, the recognized authorities on those subjects, are somehow all wrong.”

Have you looked into the mirror lately? You have no facts at all. Links to Amazon for 2 credible authors and their books are not facts they are distractions. Distractions because you attempt to lend credibility to your racist remarks be posting them assuming most people have never read nor will bother to read them but will be impressed by the status of the author. Well nice try but I am sure, absolutely sure, that at least one of the authors would be appalled that you tried to tie his name to such remarks that you have made and attempted to use his work to bolster your case.

the Three-Headed Cat™ says:

In case you haven’t noticed, you stupid fuck, actual people, including scholars – and asswipes like you – submit reviews to Amazon.

Jesus God what a fucking moron.

You haven’t read the books. You know nothing of the science. “Maligning the views of science” you mouth-breathing illiterate? Your fucking moron PC heroes are the ones who attack the science and the scientists – using the same bullshit tactics. “Racist! Racist!”

The facts are known. The science is in, and in many aspects, it is clear and conclusive. And since it doesn’t support Marxist “everybody’s the same as everyone else, so all differences in people’s situations in the world are the result of white people oppressing everyone else” dogma, it’s a “Racism! Racism!” Whenever a difference between groups is shown, the Marxist propagandists always inject the deliberate distortion “So you’re saying X group is BETTER then Y group! RACISM! RACISM!”

You’re a perfect example of the kind of gullible egotistical retards the US churns out today. Don’t know Jack Shit, but boy, you sure know everything.

You pathetic brainwashed illiterate clot. Go finish junior high before trying to discuss anything with adults.

J says:

#107 the headed ball licker

“In case you haven’t noticed, you stupid fuck, actual people, including scholars ”

Yes but that guy was not an expert in that field and is nothing more than a self proclaimed scholar and writer. Hardly the type to use as hard evidence for review. His review is also highly bias toward the right leaning beliefs. Beliefs that could skew his view so that social programs don’t get funding because people won’t or cant change because it is nature that guides their position. Remeber he is also a writer about economics.

“You haven’t read the books. You know nothing of the science.”

Really I have 2 of them right over there on my book shelf. If you believe what you say is true why not ask me to post the first sentence from a particular page and see if it matches up? Then we will see how far your nonsensical rants can go when I bitch slap you with the answer. Although, I don’t own the blank slate but I am familiar with Pinkers work and I would go so far as to say he would not agree that your racist statement are backed up by his work.

“you mouth-breathing illiterate? ”

As opposed to what? An ass breathing one like yourself.

“Your fucking moron PC heroes are the ones who attack the science and the scientists – using the same bullshit tactics. “Racist! Racist!””

It is funny you should say that because one of my “heroes” if you want to call them that is Richard Dawkins himself. You know the guy which you claim backs up you comments. He is hardly PC. LOL I have seen him almost get punched by people that he has pissed off.

Wow you are so far off on that it is almost hard to believe. I find myself in a constant position of defending scientists work and research. Not only that I fund some it personally so maybe you ought to check yourself and get back to me when you sort through your anger and race issues.

Another thing on that issue. You really like to play the martyr don’t you? You make these crazy accusations of persecution that by repetition you believe will become a truth. People are only calling you a racist because your statements exude a racist tone. Don’t insult us with the claim that they are a legitimate discussion of differences in culture. We are all too smart for that.

“The facts are known. The science is in, and in many aspects, it is clear and conclusive. ”

Which facts? These?

““What you don’t grasp is the higher average intelligence of Asians versus Hispanics” – the three headed cat

““A Chinese peasant makes more money, they will seek education – if not for themselves, for their children. An Hispanic peasant makes more money, he buys a big TV or chrome rims for his F-150″ – the three headed cat”

I would hardly call them facts.

Oh and BTW the scientific debate on Nurture vs Nature is not even close to being over or conclusive. I don’t know how you typed that with you head up your ass. Like I said most people including Dawkins himself realized the extent of genetics on human behavior and realize it isn’t one or the other. Those extents don’t go so far as to say that Hispanics are more predisposed to take bribes either. Yet you seem to want to claim that they do.

Nice straw man you are trying to set up but I agree biology has and affect on human behavior. I just don’t subscribe to the racist view that it makes Hispanics more likely to be poor and uneducated and unclean.

“And since it doesn’t support Marxist “everybody’s the same as everyone else, so all differences in people’s situations in the world are the result of white people oppressing everyone else” dogma, it’s a “Racism! Racism!” ”

You have never read any Marxist material. If you had you would know it clearly doesn’t say white people oppress everyone else. LOL Dolt! Not only that but I don’t think anyone else here has claimed that either.

“Whenever a difference between groups is shown, the Marxist propagandists always inject the deliberate distortion “So you’re saying X group is BETTER then Y group! RACISM! RACISM!””

You did claim that group X is better than group Y and on more than one occasion. Do I need to post those quotes again???????

How many fucking time do I have to say it. There is room for legitimate debate about cultural differences. You however are not interested in that. You instead want to denigrate and disparage a particular race of people.

“You’re a perfect example of the kind of gullible egotistical retards the US churns out today.”

Yes I am defiantly egotistical without question. You don’t get to where I am at without it. Gullible? Well that depends on who I am dealing with. I am a sucker for a good rap on the sidewalk. Retard? LOL Can you qualify that?

“Don’t know Jack Shit, but boy, you sure know everything.”

Passive aggressive much?

“You pathetic ”

You and my wife finally agree on something.

“Go finish junior high before trying to discuss anything with adults.”

When will you be joining the conversation then? Two or three years? LOL you are such a dolt!

Why don’t you stop being a dick and take me up on my challenge? Post a quote from any of those books that backs up the racist statement you made. The truth is you can’t. There might be a few of reasons for that. 1. You don’t own the books or haven’t read them. 2. You are not familiar enough with the work that you could pull off such a feat 3. You know damn well that there is nothing in any of those books that lends credence to your racist remarks and thought you would get away with it based on the stature that each of those authors carries. Too bad for you some of us like to read.

bobbo says:

111–J==so you are saying culture has no effect on people as in==mexicans value education as much as anyone else or that blacks have the same percentage of out of wedlock babies or again the education stats.

When you add all the subgroups up within their larger group, why do mexicans have the highest drop-out rate? And why do chinese with similar (yes, not the same, just similar) circumstances do so much better?

Come to grips with it–you are saying culture has no impact on behavior. Silly. And this does NOT go to race baiting or stereotyping==just statistical facts. What you do with the facts after being honest with them is what defines a racist from a non-racist.–course, we all have a little racism in us. We recognize it, and overcome it.

Rhetoricians argue the exact words that are used, rather than what is meant by what is said. Hillary does it==constantly. No one is fooled.

So, do you agree Mexicans as a group don’t do as well in school as other groups and after statistical accounting for language skills and income==what have you got left?

the Three-Headed Cat™ says:

Discussing culture with someone who draws upon George Lucas’ pop-culture schlock scripts for imagery presents challenges similar to those one might encounter discussing the role of the harpsichord in Baroque music – with Britney Spears.

Go spend a few decades and try to get some culture before shooting your mouth off about it. That way you might make less of a fool of yourself – but not much.

Ya. You have any such books on your shelves. It is to laugh. Like you even have shelves …

bobbo says:

#115–J==I agree when words are used without common definition, discord ensues. And I further suppose we can’t simply rely on a dictionary for that common definition.

Culture: The attitudes and behavior that are characteristic of a particular social group or organization.

And there is no doubt that just because your group does poorly in an activity, that doesn’t mean you don’t value that activity (sic!). Actually, I’ve read several reviews that comment that Mexican Culture stresses family values and the church over education==its not all negative, if we assume education to be the positive?

I note the mix and matching of 3HC’s broader issues with my much more narrow ones. That doesn’t help since I disagree with most of what 3HC posts, but still learn from it.

Well, I’m not posting to strong-arm anyone, just acquaint a few that there are other views==as 3HC does with me, I have done with you. Take it for what its worth.

J says:

#114 the three headed pussy

“Discussing culture with someone who draws upon George Lucas’ pop-culture schlock scripts for imagery presents challenges similar to those one might encounter discussing the role of the harpsichord in Baroque music – with Britney Spears.”

A couple of things here. First you should become a little more educated about that which you speak. Star Wars is the Quintessential heroes journey tale that has been repeatedly told through all cultures of the world since the beginning of written language. Try reading some of Joseph Campbell’s writings. Perhaps then you wouldn’t make such dumb remarks.

Second you might be surprised what Britney knows about musical instruments but since you are one to jump to conclusions based on little or no information about people it comes as no surprise you might make such a comparison.

“Go spend a few decades and try to get some culture before shooting your mouth off about it. ”

What does that even mean? Believe me my friend I have been cultured many times over. It comes with status in life. You however will continue to shoot your mouth off from the cheap seats.

“That way you might make less of a fool of yourself ”

You are quite familiar with looking like a fool aren’t you? Thanks for the advice.

“Ya. You have any such books on your shelves. It is to laugh. Like you even have shelves …”

and many more you might say. ……..If you really think so please take me up on my challenge.

We would all find out soon enough whether it is you or I that bluff. Alas you can not! For you have no knowledge in such affairs. You are an arse sir and I call you out in thusly.

LOL you Dolt!!!!

J says:

#117 the three headed Dolt

“Sonny, it is long established that blacks, whites, Asians and Hispanics score differently and consistently on standardized culture-fair intelligence tests, and that those levels of intelligence are mostly hereditary. And those relative intelligence levels can be confirmed easily by simple empirical observation of those races and their past and present situations, relative to other races.”

Way to misconstrue the actual facts. Man you are batting 1000.

“just as there is no controversy about the fact of evolution or the fact of global warming. ”

You keep bringing that up as if I disagree with evolution or global warming. Are you trying to create a strawman argument?

“In all three cases, the so-called “controversy” is purely a creation of the ideologues who deny said science in support of their political, religious and economic dogmas, respectively.”

While I agree the controversy over evolution and global warming amongst scientists fictional. It is not so on the Nature vs Nurture issue. I do think however that most have found a nice middle ground where each has a part to play. Despite that….No scientific evidence has been presented for peer review that says or make such claims as this

“What you don’t grasp is the higher average intelligence of Asians versus Hispanics” – the three headed cat

““Here’s the shocker – the cop taking the bribes? MEXICAN. Not black, not white, not Asian. – and NOT A COINCIDENCE.” – the three headed cat

““A Chinese peasant makes more money, they will seek education – if not for themselves, for their children. An Hispanic peasant makes more money, he buys a big TV or chrome rims for his F-150″ – the three headed cat”

Those would be very bold scientific claims and they would need to be peer reviewed. If you can show me where they were I would love to read such reports

“Make all the pseudo-intelligent sounding bullshit excuses you want.”

Excuses for what? I am not the one making racist remarks.

You’re parroting PC knee-jerk liberal Marxist faux-egalitarianism out your immature, gullible, uneducated, brainwashed ass.

I am not a Marxist and you sound like a dumbshit when you say that because it make no sense. I am however a very proud liberal.

You want to know a really funny physiological catch 22. Because I am so arrogant and egocentric. I am classified as non conformist. which rules out brainwashing and hypnosis as well as becoming a member of a Marxist group.

“You and you kind are in big-time denial.”

That’s right! I denied you your attempt to pass bullshit racist beliefs off as scientific fact.

J says:

#122 pedro

“oh, I see. The philanthropist complex”

oh pedro you are so silly. Here is some advice don’t ever go into comedy because you are not very good at it.

“Three thousand people and you’ve made your conclusions. And people say the FDA is a nest of crroks.”

pedro. Only you could read what I said and think that my contact is limited to just those parents. But I understand you have some comprehension problems and your eagerness to land a hit is overwhelming and probably makes you anxious.

“no, wait. Don’t be so harsh. Let’s wait until he draws a parallel between latin american’s and the inhabitants of the shire. He may have a point there.”

Oh pedro…….You are so silly and you only throw your cards on the table when you make such dumb statements. Do you know anything about the Heroes Journey? If not perhaps you should look it up then it might be clear to you why I posted what I posted and it will lead to feelings of embarrassment for you.

“And this is not a racist statement?”

No not at all because it is based on statistical data from the US department of education as best I remember it. SO nice try but once again you are so silly

“Aaaaaaahahahaha, stop! you’re embarrassing yourself!!!”

No pedro it is you that embarrass yourself with your lack of knowledge on the topic and you endless ramblings about it.

“#119 your observations are a lot better than J’s “facts”.”

Perhaps you should go back and re read DeLeMa’s comments. I could be wrong and I would ask DeLeMa to clarify buy I do recall these comments from DeLeMa. “makes me wish I’d gone further than mere observation and living with the “people” for a few years” which I read as he or she whishes he or she had pursued a better education. Does that not display an interest in education that you clearly have claimed that people like him or her do not have? I won’t even go into the names you have used to refer to people like DeLeMa

Before you retort remember we are talking about a living human being that is present for this debate. So before you go and make one of your disparaging racist remarks again consider that.

“May the force be with latin america!!! ”

Always!

“I have another racist for you to bash. It was a moron that said that the Asians don’t take alcohol very well. ………BLA BLA BLA BLA”

Why such animosity against Roger Chang? pedro you really don’t grasp any of this do you? You can’t see the difference between a statement like

“A Chinese peasant makes more money, they will seek education – if not for themselves, for their children. An Hispanic peasant makes more money, he buys a big TV or chrome rims for his F-150″ – the three headed cat”

and

“Asians don’t take alcohol very well”

If you cant see a very distinct difference between the two comments then maybe a few more years of grade school for you would be in order.

“People like you will never learn. Go watch another movie to get more info. Maybe watching Apocalipto will help you with this subject and give you more ammo.”

On Sat I saw 5 movies in one day at the movie theater. Isn’t that cool? It was from 10:30 a.m. to 12:15 am the next day. Didn’t learn much except the fact that my ass hurt after the first two films. BTW JUNO should win best picture but it probably won’t

Pedro you are the one that needs to catch up in your learning. Movies don’t really provide much accurate info at least not narratives which I prefer. Apocalipto? I saw it but I don’t see how it would help anything in this debate. I found some of it inaccurate but over all it was pretty good and it too was the Quintessential heroes journey story line. If you understood what that was it would help you understand that the genetic behavior that the three headed sack speaks of is not different from race to race but is the same for all humans alike.

J says:

#124 the three headed drip

“Sonny, go take your deep, timeless Star Wars philosophy, including collectible Burger King cup, over to Professor Dawkins, Wilson and Pinker. ”

Why do you think they would like a set of there own?

“They have already proved – before you were born – that you are totally wrong. ”

Why don’t you put up or shut up. Quote to me a passage from their work the refutes what I have said or lends credence to what you said.

“. You’re still just parroting what the cultural Marxists have fed into your impressionable and scientifically illiterate brain.”

Is that the extent of your argument?

“When the day comes that you have a snowball’s chance in Hell of casting doubt on the collected work of three of the greatest scientists alive, send me an invite.”

Well I don’t think I would go so far as to say they are “three of the greatest scientists alive” but What you don’t understand is I agree with there findings. Pinker is the only one where I have a slight uneasiness with his conclusions.

The problem for you is that the nonsense you have been spouting isn’t even close to what they say.

Again please post me a passage from any of their works, not even limited to the books you claim to have read, that backs up a statement like this.

“A Chinese peasant makes more money, they will seek education – if not for themselves, for their children. An Hispanic peasant makes more money, he buys a big TV or chrome rims for his F-150″ – the three headed cat”

“See how powerful brainwashing is, pedro? “Those guys are a bunch of idiots, and I’m right, because my PC heroes, who don’t know Jack Shit from science, told me so! ”

Again. Really. I already told you that Dawkins is one of my heroes and yet you can’t seem to grasp that and you only attack your own evidence with such statements.

“All these huge differences between cultures don’t really exist – everybody thinks and does everything the same way everybody else does!””

Who said that? Not me. Not even close. Maybe that is the only foe you know how to fight but you are tilting at windmills my friend.

“Schiller was talking about such know-it-alls who know less than nothing when he noted, ‘Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain”

Would you like to get into a pissing contest over Schiller now? He was familiar with the Heroes Journey and yet you still don’t get the importatance of that do you?

“Hey, J? It’s bad enough to spew such leftist multiculti political tripe at educated, experienced people”

Who would that be? Certainly not you or pedro. I think bobbo owes you a thank you.

“but to make the (standard, of course totally bogus) claim that you’ve actually read Dawkins and Wilson, ”

Like I said put up or shut up!!

“and then utter such flatly contradictory moronic nonsense,”

I was just quoting you.

“lowers you from ‘fool’ status to ‘aroogant, egotistical fool’. Congratulations on your demotion”

Well thank you but I would not want to take the title of fool from you so I politely decline.

J says:

“This will be my last post wasting my time with someone suffering from Asperger’s Syndorme”

I don’t think the three headed crap pile has Asperger’s Syndrome.

Again do you have dyslexia or are you just a really bad typist?

“The closest disorder you’re looking for to downplay my arguments is called Dysgraphia.”

No I don’t think you suffer from that at all. I really am goating you because I think you are just really wound up and get all excited about what you have to say.

“Aside from Asperger’s, you’re the one suffering from Dyslexia. Look it up, you might learn something new today.”

Despite already knowing what it is I thought I would post this little tidbit from Wiki and suggest that you look at your own postings here.

“Dyslexia is most commonly characterized by difficulties with learning how to decode at the word level, to spell, and to read accurately and fluently.” -wiki

IN ALL SERIOUSNESS Truly if you do suffer from Dyslexia I do sincerely apologies if my comment came across as derogatory toward your condition. I do know people who suffer from it and it was very hard on them. Although they now are very successful and they are also very intelligent.

“I pitty the fool that is being helped by you. ”

What? Are you Mr. T?

“No wonder everyone’s good for you.”

I don’t even understand what that means.

BTW do you watch Boston Legal? lol if not you won’t get that joke.

J says:

#127 bobbo

“Hey J—I looked a little bit and don’t get the dyslexia comment.”

You don’t? Have you read pedros posts? He regularly transposes letters in words and he can’t spell for shit both very common in people that suffer from it. Like I said I wouldn’t normally comment on such things on a blog but he kicked open the door when he decided to make comments about my understanding of language. I thought it a bit hypocritical.

“But yes, you should drop all Starwars references.”

Why? I will try to explain this again for you and the people in the cheap seats like the three headed wench.

The Heroes Journey is a plot line in story telling that is prevalent in all cultures since the beginning of written language. Even before that. We think. But you can understand the difficulty in finding evidence for that. The fact that this same story line exists in the development of all religions and cultures of all people show us that there is a commonality in what we aspire to and what motivates us. the three headed dwarf would not agree. He thinks race has some effect on us and that with Hispanics that this common root instinct is removed. He totally misconstrued what those authors said. They, apply their findings in very general ways to ALL people basing it mostly on biology things like reptile brain and such. They don’t make the distinctions of race to say one races behavior is different this or that way because of biology.

Star Wars is again the quintessential Heroes Journey plot line.

and it is Star Wars not Starwars. LOL 🙂 Now do I sound like a fanatical fan?

“But I too would like to see some direct quotes from the 3 greatest living scientists that back up 3HC’s Marxist destroying claims.”

You will never see such things from him for two reasons. 1. He never read them and probably doesn’t own the books. 2. The books make no such claims. I only speak for the two that I read. Pinker’s book I do not own and have not read but am familiar with the controversy around it.

Mister Catshit says:

#132, bobbo,

right !!!