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A federal judge has ruled that Vice President Dick Cheney has broad discretion in determining what records created during his eight-year tenure must be preserved.

Absent any evidence that Cheney’s office is failing to safeguard records, it is up to the vice president to determine how he deals with material, US District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly ruled.

At issue is whether Cheney had impermissibly limited the scope of the Presidential Records Act, a post-Watergate law aimed at protecting White House records.

Cheney has taken the legal position that his office is not part of the executive branch of government, triggering a lawsuit by several groups including three organizations of historians and archivists concerned that the record of Cheney’s time in office might not be adequately safeguarded.

The judge leaves the decisions on protecting information for other courts, other times – to the criminal in charge.




  1. fred says:

    All of the above is very interesting but not as important as the fact that we are finally rid of Cheney. Now that he is no longer in a position in which he can do so much damage, he can go back to shooting his friends rather than torturing his enemies.

  2. Mr. Fusion says:

    #30, Uncle Pat,

    Maybe I left some confusion there. The V-P’s WH office is paid for in the WH Budget. He also has an office in the Senate which is paid for out of the Senate budget. He, to the best of my knowledge, should only be receiving his salary from the Senate.

    It is the two offices that create the confusion of whether or not he is part of the Administration or part of the Senate.

  3. Paddy-O says:

    # 30 Uncle Patso said, “While, on the other hand,

    # 27 Mr. Fusion said, in part:

    “The V-P has an office in the White House and is included in the White House budget.””

    I got my data from senate.gov. Were did Fusion get his?

  4. Sea Lawyer says:

    #28, “If, as Cheney claims, he is NOT part of the administration, he can not claim executive privilege if called before Congress to testify”

    Since no executive powers are vested in him, I don’t know why he would ever be able to claim the privilege in the first place – outside of a similar claim that might be used by the President himself with any other aide or appointee.

  5. bpaskin says:

    Cheney’s lawyer, David Addington, argued that an opinion in 1961 from Nicholas Katzenbach from the DOJ stated that the Vice President is not part of the Executive Branch nor the Legislative Branch.

    Everyone can have an opinion, but it is uncommon to think that the VP is not part of the Executive Branch. Cheney was featured on the White House web page as part of the Administration, thus part of the Executive Branch.

    Maybe the reason for the confusion is that the VP was added as an afterthought at the Continental Congress. Even so, writings from the signers of the Constitution put the VP in the Executive Branch.

    My opinion is Cheney is trying to be secretive and is using his friends in the DOJ to help cover his tracks.

  6. Mr. Fusion says:

    #33, Cow-Paddy, Ignorant Shit Talking Sociopath, Retired Mall Rent-A-Cop, Pretend Constitutional Scholar, Fake California Labor Law Expert, Pseudo Military Historian, Phony Climate Scientist, and Real Leading Troll Extraordinare,

    I got my data from senate.gov. Were did Fusion get his?

    Try google, your best friend.

  7. Paddy-O says:

    # 36 Mr. Fusion said, “Try google, your best friend.”

    Sorry, the Senate trumps Google Inc. when it comes to constitutional matters… Try again.

  8. Mr. Fusion says:

    #37, Cow-Paddy, Ignorant Shit Talking Sociopath, Retired Mall Rent-A-Cop, Pretend Constitutional Scholar, Fake California Labor Law Expert, Pseudo Military Historian, Phony Climate Scientist, and Real Leading Troll Extraordinare,

    Only an idiot like you would write something as stupid as that.

  9. welll this is conspiracy. I can tell you that


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