  These puddle jumpers will be next on the list. Every landing strip will need a TSA officer.
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Aviation security plans make waves in Kansas – Kansas City Star — Ha, get on the watch list and you won’t be able to get on your own damned plane! This is just too funny for words. Soon your own car will be subject to the TSA goon squad.
The federal government wants to slap new security rules on private jets, prompting an outcry from Kansas lawmakers and the general-aviation industry. The rules, proposed by the Transportation Security Administration, would apply post-9/11 security measures to larger private planes used by the nation’s corporate elite.
Affected would be dozens of planes used by some of Kansas City’s biggest employers. Among other things, the rules would ban certain carry-on items and require aircraft operators to match passengers to terrorist watch lists.
Critics say the hassle could very well take the comfort and expediency out of flying in a corporate jet and hurt the Kansas aircraft industry.
“Time value is the single most crucial piece that we bring to the corporate business world,” said Ed Chevrestt, vice president and general manager for Executive Beechcraft Inc., which manages aircraft at Wheeler Downtown Airport.
“If you take that out of the mix, why would you want to own an airplane?”
But the TSA contends that smaller planes pose a real security threat.
[this means;} A ban on the same carry-on items now prohibited on commercial airlines. This could include golf clubs, baseball bats, tools longer than 7 inches and firearms. [ And no liquids more than 100 ml].
This will get the attention of Obama’s big money contributors and be killed fast. But it does tell you something that these a-holes even try to get something like this implemented.
Obama’s big money contributors in Kansas? Both of them?
The TSA is an agency in search of meaning. They don’t understand security any more than the previous President did.
It does tell me something: They think it would be really easy to do major damage involving a private plane. Reading anymore in to it only makes sense if you really fear big brother.
While I’m farther to the right than most, I think normalizing rules between commercial and private planes is a logical step to take.
#1 It’s not going to just be implemented in Kansas. Kansas is squawking while nobody else is paying attention.
If the TSA really wanted to protect Washington, and the White House (which did have a small cessna hit it in 1994 http://tech.mit.edu/V114/N40/crash.40w.html) they’d have to close Reagan National. Think that has a snowballs chance??
So private pilots will have to x-ray passengers and luggage, and perform pat downs? And who’s going to check the pilot?
People flying radio controlled toy airplanes will be next…
I’m all for people that own private jest being hassled more.
James Hill said, on February 24th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
It does tell me something: They think it would be really easy to do major damage involving a private plane. Reading anymore in to it only makes sense if you really fear big brother.
18,000 people a year die from lack of health insurance in the US…
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/healthcare/2002-05-22-insurance-deaths.htm
That’s roughly 135,000 people dead since 9/11.
Now remind me… why are we checking these planes again?
John,
Somehow I doubt the TSA will be patrolling when the CIA does its regular drop shipments of cocaine into the Midwest, as Daniel Hopsicker and others have elucidated.
See here:
http://www.amazon.com/Barry-Boys-Americas-Secret-History/dp/0970659172/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1235516114&sr=8-1
More perspective. About 40,000 people are killed each year in automobiles accidents. Why is no one doing a cost/benefit analysis on the tremendous amount of money that our government spends protecting us?
When it comes down to Piper J3 Cubs (pictured) and cropdusters, this country will truly be in trouble.
Makes me want to go flying right now with golf clubs, gallons of shampoo, a Swiss Army Champ knife and a pocket full of Bic lighters.
TSA this!
Baby steps toward goose steps.
The boondoggles for Pentagon loyalists never end. So far, our dinky municipal airport acquired a perimeter road for several million dollars + a visit every four hours from a security service that exists almost wholly on federal contracts.
Some dude shows up in his little yellow pickup > drives in the [unattended] gate to the perimeter road > makes a circuit and goes home. That another million-plus per year.
They had to upgrade the tower – which still isn’t busy enough to have anyone on duty at night; so, if you want to attack northern New Mexico – you’re OK in the dark. But, the upgrade was another several million rasbuckniks.
The tower upgrade has prompted the airport manager to ask for subsidies to get regular connecting flights into the airport for Dallas and L.A. – and it will take subsidies because every time previous this was tried there never was enough traffic to make money. But, being competitive or useful isn’t part of the Patriot Act mandate – is it?
All this accomplished by the politicians in federal office for the last 8 years who think that spending money on upgrading schools, roads, railroads and insulating buildings is wasting taxpayers’ dollars.
There’s only one endeavor where the United States leads the world. Hypocrisy!
#7:
“I’m all for people that own private jest being hassled more.”
Yeah, well, I’m all for people in foreclosure being hassled more.
Way to go class warfare.
10 Steve S., 8 Troublemaker.
So 40,000 people killed each year in automobile accidents then trumps the 18,000 people a year who die from lack of health insurance which should then also be disregarded alongside mass terrorist attacks. Is that how this train of logic goes?
RBG
There’s a committee of certifiable paranoid sociopaths somewhere dreaming up these terror scenarios. They moonlight as writers for 24.
While it would be silly to target a one or two engine prop plane or even small biz-jets…don’t forget that John Travolta operates a 707, Donald Trump operates a 727?), and there are countless other airliners that are being used as private executive aircraft.
The biggest threat probably remains the cargo transport plane. That is where the big planes live that could do greater damage due not only to fuel capacity, but the danger of the payload it could carry. I think the big Russian birds are less of a risk of hijack because they are so much harder to fly and require multiple operates. I bet the difference between a 747 and a 747 cargo bird are negligible if one only wants to crash into something.
Obamas contributors would want this to happen to OTHER people that own their own planes.
“Time value is the single most crucial piece that we bring to the corporate business world,”
The justification for cooporate jets flying execs around in luxury has always been that their time is so valuable to the running (and profitability) of the organisation, and the time and hassle saved by running a private jet outweighs the costs.
Why are they still using this travel method when the organisation is losing $50,000 per day? (auto manufacturers)
Sounds like soon in the US you will only be allowed to travel at all if you first submit a request stating where from, where to and why.
If approved by the TSA you will be issued with a voucher valid for an appropriate means of travel, (bus train, car or, for the very lucky few plane).
You will then have to buy the ticket and an appropriate number of carbon credits to offset the emissions of the means of transport permitted.
Forget it, stay at home and phone it in, they can listen in easier that way anyway.
“But it does tell you something that these a-holes even try to get something like this implemented.”
Yeah! It tells me it’s a Freudian Slip. And they’re right. The people who fly these corporate jets around (and not Piper Cubs!), helped to cause this economic mess. In effect, they are terrorists. And they fly to and fro arranging what ways they can further mess up the economy, in order to make themselves richer. Like the Auto executives who brought down their own companies, in order to get free of their mounting retirement fund debt. And yet they still got the gall to fly to DC in style, to ask for a bail out of their top salaried. Because you know they ain’t going to spread the bailout wealth down to the laid off rank and file. So they took a few corporate jets to DC to collect their loot.
But terrorists? Well they had to have planned their part in this mess. Sending jobs to Mexico, gaming the market toward SUVs and family Vans. Who you think lobbied for that Tax credit for businessmen buying gas guzzling MiniVans, rather than regular new cars, a few years back? The Auto executives. And when the gas prices shot up, thanks to market speculation, by these insiders. The public was stuck with vehicles that got lousy gas mileage, at $4 a gallon. And when the SUV and MiniVan market predictably shrank to nil. The automakers refused to retool back to the economy models. In fact the ones they were turning out a decade ago, were mostly crap! And the emissions standards applied to them tougher than they did to the gas guzzlers. All part of the market gaming. So now, the automaker would rather fail, than make more energy efficient cars again. Because they’ve tasted the profits of making expensive gas guzzlers. And if they don’t sell, so what, the taxpayers will bail them out anyway.
These corporate tycoons seem like economic terrorists to me. Hell yeah, confiscate their cushy sky rides.
Ya, this will save us all.
The biggest threat to this country is the fear generated by the TSA.
I saw this coming a mile away. Democrats hate private aviation with a passion. I guess they associate it with rich people (despite the fact that most private pilots are middle class, who just rent a plane every now and then). I was wondering how long it would after the government change over that they would go after private aviation. Though I would have guessed it would have taken a few months.
Don’t worry. The libs in congress won’t allow the erosion of personal rights…
We should tax private jet flights for their carbon emissions. Make the tax high enough so the planes can’t take off with just a few passengers. That should at least make those Hollywood environmentalists shut up for awhile.
First please note I do NOT think we need more security for flights of any kind. I am upset by the ultrasonic imaging sensors and the security now…which is more of a nascence than true security.
I took a flying lesson and was able to go back to my car and get my jacket, come back with no security check and take the controls of a plane over downtown of the capital of my state…but I couldn’t take a lighter on a commercial plane?
With freedom comes a chance of someone using those freedoms incorrectly and for physical harm. I’d rather have freedom and chance a whack job killing me than live in an east Germany situation, “Safe.” Give me liberty… 🙂
The horse left the building in 2001.
A study was quickly convened.
Researchers voted themselves a $235,000/year salary each.
Careful consideration was given to all factors.
A 3,569,447 page report was compiled.
No one person read all of the pages.
A hold was put on the project awaiting the development of SSD drives.
No suspension of researcher’s salaries was instigated.
The project was resumed in mid 2008.
A preliminary specification was “leaked” to Halliburton.
A no-bid contract was signed secretly in early January, 2009 in the office of the vice president.
Operation Barn Door was now active.
Today the news started to get out.
General aviation (and now radio controlled airplanes) are the current whipping boys of petty jealousy.
How many of our freedoms have we already given up in the name of supposed security? Doesn’t that mean that the terrorists already won?
Do I have to move to Canada to continue flying my radio controlled airplanes? What happened to the land of freedom?
Chris