Toddlers have been told to stop making a “diamond” star sign while singing Twinkle Twinkle Little Star in case the gesture is misinterpreted as sign language representing a female body part.

Staff at the Sure Start centre in Acomb, York, were accused of an “overreaction” for stopping the children making the symbol for fear of offending people. A disgruntled mother said: “It seems a little politically correct. These are innocent little children just making a sign to show a star.

“No one would give it a second thought. Now every parent may worry their child may be making an offensive gesture when they’re singing this song.”

Staff members had been on a course to learn Makaton sign language – a system used by about 100,000 people in Britain that assists people with communication difficulties and shares many signs with British Sign Language, which is used by deaf people.

In both, the sign for female genitalia is an inverted diamond made with a thumb and forefinger, held in front of the crotch.

During the singing of Twinkle Twinkle Little Star, children will usually hold their hands high in an upright diamond as they sing the lines “like a diamond in the sky”…

However, a spokeswoman for City of York council, which runs the Sure Start mother and toddler group, said it was “a sensible decision taken to prevent deaf children or deaf parents being offended by the use of the gesture”.

I hope there will be appropriate gestures made at the next public meetings of the City of York Council — helping Council members to know how people evaluate their fitness to represent anyone with more than half a brain.

  1. LordWolter says:


  2. Post #2- bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

    Yeah, but, but, but….hands in the air forming a diamond are nothing like a finger and thumb next to the vagina.

    I’m missing something.

    Would the magic separating thumb trick be offensive to people who are afraid of foreskin mangulation ceremonies of certain unorthodox religious sects and therefore offensive to all?

    I’ve seen monkeys use their hands to grab things. Maybe hands should be just chopped off so as not cause offense?

  3. WmDE says:

    Good thing they haven’t seen this:

  4. Sister Mary Hand Grenade of Quiet Reflection says:

    How could it possibly be that the small hands of a young child could possibly be mistaken for a vajayjay that looks like a bulldog eating mayonaise?

  5. kiwini says:

    This is only a problem for a few apparently really twisted adults, who choose to see perversion anywhere they see happiness.

    Something’s very wrong here, and it’s with the staff.

  6. Anonymous says:


    Why is this sign offensive again? Don’t women already rule the world using their “body part” (a.k.a. genitalia)? I mean, shouldn’t we all be bowing at the same time we make this sign?

    And really. What’s more offensive than being stuck next to someone who’s just soiled him/her-self?

    If you think this is offensive then I don’t suggest you attend any sporting events. The sign for “number-one” may also be misinterpreted for male “body parts”!

    Get real.

    • msbpodcast says:

      Boy, you don’t spend much time outside of North-America or Europe.

      Everywhere else, being a woman is pretty much a curse or a death sentence.

  7. Wild World says:

    Diamond shaped? Even Heavy Metal cads use triangle shaped hand gestures to signify the silk sheath.

    Why not ban the heart shape? Oval – or taco shaped hand gesture? Odd, odd, odd.

    It’s like that joke…

    Psychiatrist shows ink blots to a patient. He responses that he sees a nude women to each and every one. Psychiatrist tells man he’s obsessed with sex. Patient replies, “Me? Your the one with all the pictures of naked women!”

  8. GogglesNTeeth says:

    My daughters love the Wiggles and at 4 and 2 years old, make the diamond with their fingers when they sing it too.

    I guess the 3 girls in the video dancing are all lesbians since they made the sign.

    Attack of the Nanny State!
    and yes, pizza is a veggie!

  9. seetheblacksun says:

    A vagina might be used to acquire a diamond, but that’s the only correlation I can make out.

  10. The0ne says:


  11. msbpodcast says:

    Oooo… Stupid cunts…

  12. The Monster's Lawyer says:

    Did you notice all the phalic symbols?

  13. Animby says:

    Wish there were a link so I could find out who these idiots are?

    I wonder, how do you explain to the “toddlers” why they shouldn’t make the sign?

    And if you successfully make them understand I see three new outcomes:

    1) an increase in little boys figuring out that girls are different and therefore an increase in “playing doctor”

    2) little girls going home, looking in a mirror and failing to see the diamond shape assume they must be different from other girls thus starting a pathological lifetime body image problem

    3) millions of pre-schoolers begin singing, “…like a vagina in the sky…”

  14. orchidcup says:

    We know the solution to this problem.

    Jesus said:

    Matthew 18:7-9:

    “Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to sin!

    Such things must come, but woe to the man through whom they come!

    If your hand or your foot causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away.

    It is better for you to enter life maimed or crippled than to have two hands or two feet and be thrown into eternal fire.

    And if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away.

    It is better for you to enter life with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell.

    • Animby says:

      But, it was that girl’s tits that made me sin!

      Involuntary double mastectomy coming up…

      • orchidcup says:

        Nope. You got it wrong. It was your eyes that made you sin. Gouge them out.

        Please, I don’t want to watch.

        • Animby says:

          Hmmmm. I wonder if it’s possible to watch yourself gouge your eyes out?

          • orchidcup says:

            Funny thing is, according to Jesus, if you are maimed or missing body parts when you go to Heaven, you will still be missing those body parts in Heaven.

            Since Jesus is famous for healing people, I just think it is cruel that a quadriplegic will still be a quadriplegic after they die and go to Heaven.

            On top of all that, if your hand causes you to sin, you are expected to maim yourself and go to Heaven without a hand.

  15. Sydney Sider says:


    Am from Sydney, the home of the Wiggles. The mind boggles at the crap going on these days. Can’t believe the rubbish, except when you consider the “map of Tassie”.

    Go look it up…

  16. Animby says:

    orchidcup : “if your hand causes you to sin, you are expected to maim yourself and go to Heaven without a hand.”

    This miserable new format did not allow me to reply under your post. What
    s the use of a format that supposedly encourages conversation if it automatically cuts you off?

    In any case, you’d think an omniscient god would know that it’s not the hand that causes you to sin, it;s your brain! So the quote ought to read , “If you sin with your hand, cut off your head!” Wonder how many headless there would be in heaven NOT singing hosannas to their lord…

  17. Badda bing says:

    If the hand sign is obscene then those kids are doing it wrong and the adults who brought this up are twat waffles,

  18. Look Ma, No Hands says:

    I gave the “OK” sign once in Caracas and almost started an international incident!

    • Animby says:

      I once gave a thumbs up sign in Kuwait. Once. Never again. In my travels I find it a good rule never to make a hand gesture unless I know, fer shure, what it means.

  19. Rick says:

    Just don’t lick the diamond…

  20. rusty says:

    So apparently deaf people are not only hard of hearing, they are idiots as well according to the City of York council.
    Treating deaf people as though they are too stupid to differentiate the two gestures is patronizing and insulting.


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