When it comes to conspiracies it just doesn’t get any better than this. Turns out that Edward Snowden was working for a company called Booz Allen Hamilton, who is owned by the Carlyle Group. The Carlyle Group is best known as the company linking the Bush family with the Bin Laden family of Saudi Arabia. Just what America needs to keep us safe. The Bush’s and the Bun Laden’s tracking everything we do. Senator Diane Feinstein’s husband Richard Blum is also connected.

This is too weird for words. My jaw is dropped. Mouth is open. I’m stunned.

  1. bobbo, in Repose says:

    Money concentrates EVIL as we approach the pinnacle of any hierarchical structure. You should assume this if you don’t already know it for a fact.

    Freedom is lost when money is confused for what it isn’t: as in its not Free Speech. As in, its not a measure of success. Just good old fungible EVIL. It is like cooties though.

  2. Chris Mac says:

    Don’t confuse/equate evil with money. Evil alone can’t buy you a tank.

    • bobbo, in Repose says:

      Ha, ha. EVIL = RICH. What would Abraham Lincoln think?

      Hmmm, well…. Money does not equal RICH. Its only a building block, a filter. Have to DO lots of things to get Money. Hard to do lots of things and not fall upon EVIL if not choosing EVIL specifically for its efficiency?

      Its a ballpark kind of think. Mind the piles.

      • jpfitz says:

        The worship of money IS evil. If you wake everyday and your only goal is to make money for yourself, then you may be “evil”.

        If the money you make is used for feeding the family your a proper citizen.

        If the everyday work you do is to make money from war, you’re “evil”. No matter if it’s to keep America safe of flush with oil.

    • Marc Perkel says:

      I agree, with the exception of the Carlyle Group.

      • jpfitz says:

        Hey Mark, I posted a comment on this dated 6/10 about the very same subject. Where’s my kudos?

        The infamous Carlyle Group owns the information along with the feds. How interesting, the war mongering corp of the century is involved. WAKE UP!
        “Booz Allen, which notes in securities filings that its business could be damaged by leaks, acknowledged in a statement that Mr. Snowden had been an employee.
        The company, based in Virginia, is primarily a technology contractor. It reported revenues of $5.76 billion for the fiscal year ended in March and was No. 436 on Fortune’s list of the 500 largest public companies. The government provided 98 percent of that revenue, the company said.
        Its rapid growth, fueled by government investment after the Sept. 11 attacks, led to a 2008 buyout by the Carlyle Group, a private equity firm, followed by a public offering in 2010.
        Booz Allen has formed a particularly close relationship with the intelligence agencies, and others besides Mr. Clapper and Mr. McConnell have spent time in the company’s executive offices.”


  3. ECA says:

    What do you expect of a capitalist nation to do?
    Its all to make MORE capital/money..
    Get other nations to join in and FORCE your ideals into the mix.
    LIKE the marketing of a product…MAKE the market.
    In this ideal you MAKE the instance.
    MAKE things happen, that MAKE your company MONEY..

    • jpfitz says:

      Make bombs, and help cause instability in a region where wars can be waged spilling American blood for huge profits. I have a Carlye owned country club in my home town where I grew up. My niece worked there last year serving the psychopaths lunch and dinner during the summer. Do I educate her about the type of war mongers she’s serving, I’m guessing she’s back there again for the summer. One thing, her Dad is a right wing loon and a Bush apologist.

      • bobbo, in Repose says:

        There is a HORROR to awful to contemplate….. having kiddies more conservative than one’s self.

        Facing that evidence of failure as a parent everyday.

        Heh, heh. Letting them grow up to be the best person they can be… and happy. Just doesn’t cut it.


        • jpfitz says:

          So, do you suggest I educate her, even though she’s the one who informed me of the owners? Her Dad and I butt heads, I was shocked when she casually dropped the Carlyle group name to me. Scary little conservative twenty year olds not concerned with the atrocities going on. What happened to the conscious of our young. Some will berate me, but boy do I miss the late sixties to early seventies peace movement that frustrated Nixon.

          • bobbo, in Repose says:


            When it comes to family, the highest purpose served is: peace.

            The simple truth that is easy to follow is not to tempt other family members with your own BS. Afterall…. just look at yourself. How happy can we say you are?

            No—the only challenge is what to say if you are approached by other Family Members for your opinion.

            Truth/On: That is why no one in MY family talks to me. Both sides are happy now.

          • noname says:

            When it comes to family, the highest purpose served is: peace.

            hum, really; I’ve seen exasperated dysfunctional families and and their members emotionally suffocate because they can’t effectively air their differences!

            In the name of peace
            They waged the wars
            Ain’t they got no shame
            ~Nikki Giovanni

  4. Chris Mac says:

    All i meant is.. money is the scapegoat, not the evil..

    • bobbo, in Repose says:

      You said it well above. Made me laugh. Money is intrinsically worthless or near so. It can wipe your ass or start a fire. Neither worth much until they are needed. such is the nature of need.

      Fairly, I think “money” is shorthand for “love of money.” EVIL arising when you don’t limit the amount of money you amass (not “earn”) by appropriate other concerns.

      “Money, the root of all EVIL.” /// aka “Failure to place more humanitarian and christian values and activities ahead of the rapacious desire to amass wealth is the root cause of the evil that one man will visit upon many others.”

      RICH = EVIL

      • deegee says:

        “Money, the root of all EVIL.”

        Actually the scripture at 1 Timothy 6:10 in the KJV version says “the love of money” not just “money”:

        “For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.”

  5. Hmeyers says:

    A sentence or 2 more and you could have implicated …

    [ _ ] Bobbo’s bee hive as part of the conspiracy.
    [ _ ] Nixon’s dog Checkers.
    [ _ ] Jesus
    [ _ ] Chuck Norris
    [ X ] Manuel Noriega
    [ _ ] The Koch Family
    [ _ ] Homer Simpson

    • Tim says:

      Well, yes. Yes you could. But I do think one individual should take precedence over Manuel Noriega. That ‘mericun gubment operative I reference is Jean-Claude Duvalier. See a family resemblence with our Half-a-Brother watching, hmmm??


      Anyways, I thought people would have jumped on this other stuff several years ago after the revelations from hacking that poser Aaron Barr led to many of these data points from HB Gary, Palantir, and Booze Allen Hamilton. Especially with the concerted effort to destroy Wikileaks by unscrupulous means.

  6. ECA says:

    Capitalism is Circular thinking..
    And Circular thinking has FLAWS..

    As long as it FEEDS on itself, it must also CREATE its own food.
    IF 1 thing STOPS, it FAILS.

    There is also another fun point. that you CAN NOT make money from NOTHING. MAKING money only drives PRICES UP, even if it looks like MORE, it isnt. If you play with Promises(they did that..funny money..no material goods) it FAILS. You have to have SOMETHING material to make something SOLID. something to SELL..
    There are many things you can do.(they control this nation, there that is removed, and kills them. its a RESTRICTED environment) they have to EXPAND..

    Easy way to explain.
    A pyramid scheme, is perfect. AS long as the TOP, FEEDS the bottom. IT WORKS.
    But to keep MORE money coming in, you have to ADD to the pyramid…MORE and MORE and MORE..the bigger the better.

    You add GOODS, you restrict GOODS so only certain people can have them, you RESTRICT advancements so that you et MORE money from OLD ideas(we live in 30 year old tech, if you didnt know), you MAKE things happen, you FORCE 1 group to pay you, so you get more money to KEEP the money flowing..and you FEED the bottom..

    As long as the bottom is FED, things are content.
    CUT the pyramid…and only certain persons get FED..
    You have to keep the bottom, BUYING..GIVING UP MONEY..
    At the TOP, you skim off, small amounts..looking for MORE money to KEEP this going..ANY WAY YOU CAN..
    You make small HICKUPS, and SKIM off extra amounts, and RESTRICT what gets to the bottom, just to SKIM off more, but you end up FEEDING the bottom..so they go back to BEING CONTENT..

    IF you want some numbers..
    they say the TOP 1% pays more taxes then ALL the other 99%..
    think of what that is saying..
    the TOP 1% make as MUCH MONEY(MORE really) then ALL the other 99% Added together.
    ANd dont restrict your thinking on this..this is a WORLD estimate, not NATIONAL..

    • jpfitz says:

      Capitalism is dying, is that your conjecture? With limited resources you are dead on correct. Food will always be a commodity, but tech items are hitting a wall. Just about everyone has a flat panel telly and computer monitor.

      The upper 1% has everything they need. Money is an afterthought if considered at all. I worked for a company owner who had a 40 some odd foot long boat. What was odd is he would not dock unless he was the biggest boat in the Marina, ask for a raise in pay and he’d nickel and dime ya.

  7. msbpodcast says:

    Bush is just another family of 1%ers. (Not the oligarchy.) They are an eminently ignorable, and therefore disposable portion, of the population.

    They’re just grabbing at the money as the real wealth, the power to do things, is being redistributed from the 99%ers to the oligarchy. (Once they have finished they will realize what good they have actually done.)

    You want to know what I see in the wreck that is the world-wide economy?


    In Greece, the country’s 1:N broadcasting communication system has been shut down. (You might think that it will stifle democracy, but it will instead stifle the 1%ers by dismantling the old command and control system. [Those greedy 1%ers don’t see any benefit to having an informed populace, but the need is still there and it will be met.])

    Its going to be replaced by the existing N:M cellular communication system.

    The Greek nation have been thrust into being a real democracy again.

    It is going to have to embrace podcasting, since the window of broadcasting has now been shuttered.

  8. sounder says:

    The looting of America.

  9. Dallas says:

    I knew Bush was behind this scandal and it’s not Obama’s fault. I have all the proof I needed.

  10. tinfoil sales department says:

    Old news, we are in decline as a country because of corruption at the top of our government . This is but one example. If you look critically at many things ,say ethanol and corn prices and the havoc it brings, amnesty for illegal citizens while amnesty for natural born americans in privately run prisons for victimless crimes is never considered, the list goes on , it is a sad time to be a patriot with some small intellect and open eyes.

    • bobbo, in Repose says:

      You summed up a lot of EVIL in such a short paragraph.

      …….. I know……….. the gag reflex prevents extensive documentation.

      • ECA says:

        ya know they have a reason to put people in jail..
        NOT enough jobs..
        to MAKE jobs for 1% of the people to look after those installed into jails. REAP the money from the states, as its become PRIVATIZED..

        It used to be the STATES paid their OWN, for jails and prisons..NOW you can be SHIPPED OUT to other states, and the TAX PAYER still has to pay for them..

        Privatized jails?? HOW do you make money..EASY..the TAX PAYER.
        Around $40,000 per year per prisoner..
        If you paid the prisoner $40,000 per year and TOLD them to LIVE in certain AREAS, they probably would..
        Soc. Sec. dont pay that much.

  11. Admfubar says:

    nice tio know that top secret and classified information is in the hands of PRIVATE BUSINESSES like booz allan… ’cause you can trust private business!

  12. Hugo Smedlap says:

    Ole’ Dolph Hitler was honest with the people of Germany.

    Americans need to hear lies.

  13. Glenn E. says:

    I don’t believe it all the work of a “Bush Crime Family”. At least not exclusively. But perhaps more of the Harvard-Yale-Rhodes elite. In other words, the 1% who hold themselves above all the rest of the citizens. And for whom, none of this “spying” even applies to. I’m sure for the price of rigging Windows with back doors. Bill Gates gets a free pass not to be “spied” on. He and his aren’t subject to what the rest of us citizen slaves are. Nor the Buffets, nor the Trumps, nor the Kennedys, nor the Romneys, etc, etc.

  14. John E. Quantum says:

    They really had something until they quoted Cynthia McKinney. The Crusader missle? It takes a powerful rocket motor to ballistically launch a tank.


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