So, those pushing for border walls and more Border Patrol agents are still doing so because…

Mexico, whose economic woes have pushed millions of people north, is increasingly becoming an immigrant destination. The country’s documented foreign-born population nearly doubled between 2000 and 2010, and officials now say the pace is accelerating as broad changes in the global economy create new dynamics of migration.
The shift with Mexico’s northern neighbor is especially stark. Americans now make up more than three-quarters of Mexico’s roughly one million documented foreigners, up from around two-thirds in 2000, leading to a historic milestone: more Americans have been added to the population of Mexico over the past few years than Mexicans have been added to the population of the United States, according to government data in both nations.

Mexican migration to the United States has reached an equilibrium, with about as many Mexicans moving north from 2005 to 2010 as those returning south.

  1. B. Dog says:

    Does anyone know if they still have that dog and pony show in Tijuana?

    • bobbo, in a Universe of Possibilities, the same thing doesn't always occur says:

      I’ve been waiting for a response myself.

      ………….did they ever have one? Sounds like an urban myth to me.

      Lets snope it or google:……………………………………………OK==two minutes, as thats all its worth. Seems to be what C-Span broadcasts 24/7—or an outgrowth of still shots.

      I find Congress more disgusting.

  2. NewformatSux says:

    Uncle Dave gets a Butterfield award.

  3. NewformatSux says:

    So we have wealthy people fleeing Obama’s high taxes by settling for a luxurious lifestyle in Mexico, plus some number of people, both American and Mexican who actually think work is better to find there than in Obama’s economy.

    Plus an existing border patrol and fence that is actually catching people despite opposition from La Raza and the Democratic Party. Hence the Butterfield Award.”Prison rate up even as crime falls.”

    • Tim says:

      Yea, about that fence. All the post-planting and barbed-wire wrestling I’ve ever done has always been to keep the cows on the inside.

      • LibertyLover says:


        • bobbo, ♫ ... I don't know much about History... ♫" says:

          I love the way LL focuses on the most incorrect posting in a thread and gives it a +1 rating. PHENOMENAL consistency. Idiot savant… or just that whack????

          Ha, ha.

        • Tim says:

          “”Every time you think about this toughness on the border and ID cards and REAL IDs, think it’s a penalty against the American people too. I think this fence business is designed and may well be used against us and keep us in. In economic turmoil, the people want to leave with their capital and there’s capital controls and there’s people controls. Every time you think about the fence, think about the fences being used against us, keeping us in.” — Ron Paul

      • bobbo, ♫ ... I don't know much about History... ♫" says:

        Oh Wilbur!!!!

        By structure fences/walls do both. Keep things in, and keep things out.

        There is a fence around Heaven. St Dickwad at the gate.

        ….check your own experience. 10 to 1 you forgot, don’t know, don’t care about those that were kept out of your cabbage patch.

        20 to 1–you had some bad experiences with cows.

        Ha, ha. I crack myself up.

        • Tim says:

          Cabbages and backyards are different. Besides, I use a flamming mote filled with llamasharks and not a fence — It’s not like it’s got well-armed, slobber-dripping goons every six feet horizontal and vertical that want to ask stupid wife-beater questions and molest your phone.

    • JT Hut says:

      You still have to pay federal income tax even if you move out of the country so you can’t flee “Obama’s high taxes”. no matter where you move to. You can avoid state and local taxes though.

    • sho off says:

      Patriots ducking taxes in Mexico, not a new concept. Google it.

      I’m sure the everyone pays full price at the cancer doctor.

  4. NewformatSux says:

    Now if Ted Cruz can succeed in his plan to defund ObamaCare, 18 hours and talking so far, then we will see more employment here, and your migration rates will change in the other direction. Thus the need for more border walls.

    My preferred solution would be to kill the coyotes.

    • JT Hut says:

      The House already passed their plan which defunds ObamaCare. Ted Cruz is blathering in opposition to the legislation he supports and the House passed. Go figure.

  5. bobbo, ♫ ... I don't know much about History... ♫" says:

    Comparing numbers without any more depth…. is rather shallow.

    Capstone: the immigration into the USA by Mexicans is mostly illegal. The immigration into Mexico by Gringos is mostly legal.

    It is all drive by economics, as economics will do. Anybody remember one of the justifications for NAFTA? That it would build up the Mexican economy decreasing the motive for illegal emmigration? Yes, that big sucking sound that Ross Perot warned us all about.

    Right THERE it was: lets export good middle class jobs so that illegals won’t cross for sub minimum wage jobs.

    A plan so fail proof, it could have predicted the destruction of the Middle Class such that they would have to move to Mexico themselves??? HEY!!!—blame Obama. He’s from Kenya don’t ya know?

    • noname says:

      Of course more is going back to Mexico! Two cross over and a family goes back!

      Why is math so hard for Repukes!

  6. Mextli says:

    Good news indeed if true. I am sure they will be treated as well there as the ones coming here are. Just ask the uninvited immigrants from Guatemala to Mexico about that.

    • bobbo, we think with words but rarely pick up the Dictionary says:

      I actually visited a few of the conclaves where foreigners build tall walls to isolate themselves from the locals. The laws do change from time to time but land can only be owned by non-Mexicans in a special few places, none of it prime real estate (Ocean View). I suppose their are quibbles what with time shares/leases etc.

      Had a friend with a 6 week time share in Mazatlan. Some local big wig liked it too and just moved in kicking all the time sharers out. Don’t like it?—Sue me, he said.

      Life can be like that.

  7. sargasso_c says:

    Not rich, just normal American’s trying to find a better life.

  8. Uncle Patso says:

    NewformatSux says:

    “Uncle Dave gets a Butterfield award.”

    Is that the Lyman Henry Butterfield award from the Association for Documentary Editing, or the Lord Butterfield of Stechford award from the Great Britain Sasakawa Foundation for furthering understanding and cooperation between the peoples of Japan and the United Kingdom in all fields of culture and society, or the Gail E. Butterfield Nutrition Travel Award from the American College of Sports Medicine (ACSM) or the The Gail Butterfield Student research Award, also from the ACSM, or an award from the Butterfield Memorial Foundation of Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, or the Jack Butterfield Award from the New England Intercollegiate Baseball Association, or the Cliff Butterfield Athletic Service Award from the Ohio Valley University of Vienna West Virginia?

    • NewformatSux says:

      Oh goody, you know how to use google, but apparently can’t find what you are looking for.

  9. Dallas says:

    This is an outrage. America is still the land of opportunity and we have a negro president to prove it.

    • Tim says:

      Ohh, shut up. And go and change your hamspter.

    • NewformatSux says:

      That comment gets Dallas thrown off the Obama list, even if he is a fellow gay.

      • bobbo, horses can hurt you says:

        I see the humor…. not a HORSE laugh, but you know… aping our conservative brethren.

        Even a casual reader of this blog should see it.

        Dallas = Team Obama.

      • NewformatSux says:

        Race trumps gays, as we saw with the TrayVon Martin case. Though it’s likely that at the time Obama was not aware that Zimmermann was suspected of being a fellow gay, that if it were Obama, Martin would have tried to take him out too.

        • Dallas says:

          I would agree with you that today negros can be openly black than gays can be openly gay.

          However, we’re coming from behind (non pun intended) and gays will be MORE welcomed than blacks. This is because we’re fabulous and Modern Family is a great show.

          • NewformatSux says:

            Except the blacks are beating up the gays, or in the case of TrayVon, suspected gays.
            Now, you might be right, except it isn’t clear if Obama is more than half-gay

  10. Glenn E. says:

    I know of a former US military recruiter, who moved down to Central America, after retiring. Partly because his wife was from there. But also because the taxes were much lower. Those very taxes that pay for his retirement. So his job once was selling young people the idea of defending their country. So he could abandon it, when he retired. Because he could live cheaper, where they don’t have so expensive a military complex, that’s a huge tax drain on the country’s economy. And it’s not going all over the world, defending oil pipelines and tankers, from saboteurs and pirates.

    But the civilian police also aren’t very well funded, down south. So former Americans, living down there, do so behind tall iron fencing and locked gates. So bandits and such, don’t steal them blind. Which the police can do little about.

    So I’d think more than twice about being part of this exodus to Mexico and beyond, from the US. Especially after that hurricane did its damage.

  11. NewformatSux says:

    Even if Uncle Dave is correct and the trend will not change, it is still useful to build a wall, so as to make the numbers even lower.
    Unless you are claiming that there is no more illegals crossing in?

  12. deowll says:

    Anyone who thinks the drug cartels have stopped using the border needs their skull examined to see if they still have a brain.

    It is also true that people from other countries, many from Central America will still be coming to the US because Mexico does not tolerate illegals.

  13. Mr Windows says:

    A few hundred or a thousand retirees moving to Mexico to buy a cheap condo on the beach every year (where they still cannot legally own property outright) somehow still seems to be a much smaller number than the hundreds of Mexicans illegally crossing the border into the U.S. every day…
    So what, we have a million U.S. citizens LEGALLY in Mexico? There are 10-15 MILLION Mexicans here ILLEGALLY.
    There is no ‘equilibrium’. Yes, many thousands of Mexicans have returned home, for a variety of reasons, including the economic downturn, lack of available jobs, and the increased scrutiny and enforcement of immigrants. Many thousands of Mexicans come here LEGALLY each year, playing by the lottery rules.
    There are not more Americans in Mexico than Mexicans in the U.S., and there are not more Americans moving to Mexico than Mexicans moving to the U.S.
    It’s just factually a total lie.

    • NewformatSux says:

      Shhh, don’t tell Uncle Dave. That fence on the border is a bad idea. Perhaps if you told him the purpose of the fence is to keep the Americans from coming back…

  14. Captain Obvious says:

    The reason can be summed up in four words: peyote and clam dip.

    • Tim says:

      and inexpensive, yet durable, beautifully hand-crafted horse blankets that continually give off the pleasing aroma of light machine oil.

  15. Gold Price says:

    The Mexican-born population in the United States was larger than the total populations of all but seven US states. The Mexican-born population in the United States was larger than the total populations of all but seven US states: California, Texas, New York, Florida, Illinois, Pennsylvania, and Ohio.


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