The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, criticized for manipulating temperature records to create a warming trend, has now been caught warming the past and cooling the present. July 2012 became the hottest month on record in the U.S. during a summer that was declared “too hot to handle” by NASA scientists. That summer more than half the country was experiencing drought and wildfires had scorched more than 1.3 million acres of land, according to NASA. According to NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center in 2012, the “average temperature for the contiguous U.S. during July was 77.6°F, 3.3°F above the 20th century average, marking the warmest July and all-time warmest month on record for the nation in a period of record that dates back to 1895.” “The previous warmest July for the nation was July 1936, when the average U.S. temperature was 77.4°F,” NOAA said in 2012. This statement by NOAA was still available on their website when checked by The Daily Caller News Foundation. But when meteorologist and climate blogger Anthony Watts went
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Uh-oh…somebody’s gonna lose their pension for not towing the party line.
110 at home yesterday in Henderson, NV (south-east Las Vegas). Warmer the next few days.
I’ve been to Henderson, to visit with wife’s longtime friend. I was pleased by the terracotta roofs, but the bright green lawns at mid-day kinda freaked me out. They lived on a corner and their frontage was large but the back yard was very small.
I love the desert, I’ve had it with the winters on long island and the humidity in the summer, this year is unusually cool and low humidity, I have yet to put the A/C on in the main living area. The Robert Moses park is 12 minutes from our house, that’s the real draw besides family. I would move to Palm Springs or the surrounding area if it were not for family ties.
Your current weather pattern looks like a sine wave.
http://wunderground.com/weather-forecast/US/NV/Henderson.html
It’s a Rossby wave, fitz. Cheezus.
Oh Timmmmmay: give jp a break. From the link, he was obviously commenting on the temp and/or pressure measurements which are sinusoidal everywhere being a product of the day/night cycle. ummm===so sinusoidal everywhere there is a night and day cycle since you want to be so exact. Not Rossby at all.
I should have designated which measurement I was refeering to. The high and low temps graph, as bobbo stated was the image that caught my eye.
Dinural variation. Gummybearus.
I used to eat copious amounts of cheezits. Don’t get all technical on me, trying to teach me new science words. Thanks, though I did learn something new about the science of our planet and the meanders way up in the atmosphere that affect the weather on the planet surface.
Your temps will be hotter than Death Valley, CA. It’s a dry heat, better than 102 degrees with 98% humidity.
Hit the pool, and throw some blocks of ice into it.
better than *it’s cold. but at least it’s a wet cold*
“a. History
In the 1980’s, FSL realized the potential of ACARS data to improve NWP models, and successfully negotiated the receipt of data from four airlines (Delta, Northwest, UAL, and UPS). These airlines route their ACARS data to FSL via ARINC as text, and FSL decodes the variety of data formats from the various fleets (currently more than 20 from 6 airlines).
In 1993 FSL established an ongoing effort to assess ACARS data quality, flag apparently bad data, and correct data where possible. A program was developed (Moninger and Miller 1994) to perform this task, and a graphical display program was developed to facilitate evaluation of its performance. One early result of the graphical display was to discover a fleet of aircraft whose reported longitudes were flipped around 95 West. That is, a longitude of 95 – x became 95 + x. Thus, some aircraft actually landing in Atlanta appeared to be landing in the Red River Valley of Oklahoma. This problem had not been noticed in the preceding several years during which the data had been used.”
Now it is more accurate and it costs less, which results in fuel savings which would mean cheaper fuel if there wasn’t fraud and price manipulation involved. The people rigging the interest rates are rigging the fuel prices. It’s like reverse Moore’s Law. The price keeps multiplying higher and the processing power keeps being reduced. If we can get it spitting out more pollution we can waste even more money and end up in Oklahoma and think we are in Georgia. Reverse the prices. http://forbes.com/sites/louiswoodhill/2014/03/03/its-time-to-drive-russia-bankrupt-again/2/
The data said we were going to Cuba and we ended up in Russia. Now more leaks to prove the data was as wrong as we were. It’s to stop the war. You ended up in the wrong Georgia. No peaches-lots of fuzz because it’s a soviet police state.
My question is just how accurate were the thermometers almost 100 years ago they were analogue tubes filled with mercury and hand blown, So were they truly accurate to the tenths or thousands of a degree like modern ones are. 1/10 of a degree is the difference between global warming and normal to cooling many times
what difference does it make?
Always nice to be reminded that only 6% of the Earth’s surface is important in the very small minds of some Americans.
BTW, Watts “qualifications” as meteorologist are working as weatherman for radio stations. There is no record of him having a degree in anything.
So you need a degree to realize that graphs were used upside down to produce a hockey stick?
When a so-called climate scientist(who does not have a degree in climate science either) makes such an egregious error, how much credibility does he have? How about when he is called on it, and insists there is no error, and says it is strange to even accuse him of making such an error? How about when he then repeats the error, and gets other climate scientists to repeat his error and cite his papers?
And this is an error that can be seen by anyone who uses Excel or can follow basic programming.
You lie. And I assume you know it.
http://newscientist.com/article/dn11646-climate-myths-the-hockey-stick-graph-has-been-proven-wrong.html#.U7LXq7EbC8A
Seal Level keeps rising:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current_sea_level_rise
Duplicate post to a duplicate lie. Can’t think of anything more direct.
Great article from New Scientist, although the second I saw a link to the “2006 report of the US National Academy of Science (pdf)” on the matter I knew the deniers would be discount it.
It is, after all, the best-recognized and most authoritative scientific body on the planet.
That article is I think older than the paper that used the upside-down data. Mann et al in PNAS. If you have any knowledge of computer coding, you can see it for yourself.
He’s a college drop out with a schtick that leverages most of the US public’s inability to understand the difference between a weatherman and climatologist.
AND NOW FOR SOME REAL SCIENCE : “…all-time warmest month on record for the nation in a period of record that dates back to 1895…”
All-time? Since 1895? Really?
Get Earth temperature records from ANY institution who did the study examining ice core records (be it from Arctic, Greenland, Antarctic ,…). Observe temperatures 1000, 10000, 100000 years ago. Notice that according to all those (highly accepted, peer reviewed and thousands of time published and re-checked) records, despite warming since 1895 (and 1800’s in general)… WE ARE STILL IN COLDEST 10% years IN LAST 10000 years. Just because our grand-grand-..parents lived in (literally named) “Little Ice Age” does not make those temperatures normal or some long term average. We are still below 10000 years and 100000 years average. Well below. Since 1800’s we are warming, slowly and gradually toward normality. Be worried if that stops as cold periods equal Napoleons, Hitlers, Dark ages,… Warm ones gave us all major civilizations and prosperity periods.
Gee Douche… rarely does anyone miss the point so completely.
Ha, ha.
I really can’t stand this kind of nit picking. It isn’t a question of whether or not the climate is changing — it is!
The question is, what do we humans want to DO?!
That’s NOT to say we humans should try and control what is clearly a NATURAL force. It’s highly vane to think we humans can instantaneously change the planet or even it’s climate. That much I agree with. It makes no difference if we humans are the cause of this warming trend either because, like I said, IT’S HAPPENING!
But we humans can at least do the small things like NOT HELP! And sure, whatever kind of ACTION (or inaction) we take might be like throwing a cup of water on a forest fire. For example, who knows if atmospheric CO2 scrubbers will do anything at reducing the levels of CO2 that we already KNOW we have dumped?! If that cup of water is thrown in just the right place it could mean the difference between living and dying. So would you maybe care and TRY?!
To paraphrase a rather smart guy George Carlin, the earth will be fine. The earth has been through much worse things in the past than anything we puny humans can do. Fires, floods, volcanoes, meteor strikes, plagues, you name it. And we humans have the conceit to think that a few plastic bags is going to warm the planet?!
No George, I don’t think that. I think the planet is warming all on it’s own — just like it has in the past. I’m saying we humans better start LEARNING how to dig in or at least remember how to live in cooler caves once the temperature starts averaging 120F in WINTER! We might want to learn how to stop contributing to the green house gases (CO2) which we already know are NOT GOOD and do the simple things like NOT drive our cars everywhere. And yes, we might even like to stop using those plastic bags too. Because, as you said (George), we HUMANS are fucked which should be no real surprise when considering our own conceited shortsighted-ness on just about EVERYTHING!
… And since we humans have nowhere else to go, it’s NOT a question about the planet — it’s really a question about US humans and how we deal with it!!! (Same logic applies when it comes to governments wasting resources and allowing a few powerful pricks to fuck it up for everyone too.)
Hearing your a Carlin fan or know of him. What do you make of blue skied mornings turned overcast by mid-afternoon. If you look up for long periods of time large jets are leaving trails of ? which spreads into clouds. The jets are leaving tic-tact-toe lines of white. Some just flying parallel to each other.
Way back when, someone sent out an e-mail saying ‘We need to get rid of the Medieval Warm Period.’ Along came Michael Mann with a hockey stick that did exactly that. Now they are trying to get rid of the Dust Bowl. Adjustments that cool the past. Then they ignore urban heat island effects, and instead smear warming in cities onto good rural thermometers. Top climate scientists have said you only need about 30-50 good thermometers to cover the whole planet. So why not do that rather than use these algorithms that have not been properly tested, and tend to allow groupthink to keep bad methods in place.
SCIENCE!!!!!
You don’t think burning coal and oil creating co2 will heat up the atmosphere? What is your theory as to what happens to the co2?
Meanwhile………… sea level continues to rise:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current_sea_level_rise
Interestingly, Timmy linked to an article about the ocean rise being caused by under ice volcanoes in Antarctica. Fun to argue about what is happeing a mile under the ice at the South Pole?
Made me think though that the slow sea rise predicted this century more likely will slowly rise as predicted UNTIL some huge slice of miles thick ice does slide off some land at North or South Pole: overnight, sea level to rise 20-30 feet.
Still won’t be proof of AGW don’t ya know. Should be a great comfort to all y’all.
Fools.====>JUST LOOK!!!!!
The giant volcanoes can only explode after the ice melts off them a little somewhat — a lifting point, if you will.
So, we need 200 years of AGW for about a foot to melt off that mile-thick ice before the fun can begin — 11 ft. rise in just a couple weeks, maybe much more if there is just tons and tons of lava continuing to, umm, be put into the atmosphere…
Seems like the most likely scenario to me–as far as sea level rise goes. It won’t be slow and steady. It will be slow and steady to a tipping point. Just like everything else in Climate Science.
Thats why we are so doomed. We are already past the 400ppm tipping point and accelerating to the 450 and beyond.
Shirley we should be mindful of 100 year cause and effect time periods? Whaaaa? Whats that you say?==>Well, we’re having hot dogs for lunch since you asked.
Yea. In actuality, I’m going to have to look at that volcano/basin issue a bit closer; It’s not clear to me why a depression, already below sea level and filled with ice should be able to change the overall ocean levels.
I’m presupposing that it’s something like lube for the whole continent to slide off, or something. But does not a bowl filled with ice occupy more volume/gram than a bowl filled with water??
I’m not understanding why the levels would go up just to replace the bowl with water instead of ice — obviously, there is more to it like ‘btw’ there is a mile of ice suspended above this depression which is above the boiling hot magma. I’m afraid it’s fucking climate scientists all the way down…
I don’t know what special case you are imagining…. but yeah==the ice is 1-2 miles thick above sea level on land. When enough of it melts, the water lubricates the bottom of the ice shelf and causes cracking all to the point of big ice cubes breaking up and sliding off the land into the ocean. Seal level goes up not because of melting but because of huge New Jersey size ice bergs.
Evidence of this happening in the past is present in the debris off shore of Greenland I think I read. Also–minimum case is 10 meter rise or about 30 feet? I don’t “visualize” the ice being that large….. but math is math unless they are lying to us all in order to get funding? (sarc/stupidity/==off)
Good. I’ve always hated {loved} being dragged off three hundred miles in the off-season to get stung by jellyfish guts — best to keep your enemas close…
I know there is some CO2 man made global warming. But I just don’t know how much. And things like this make me not take it as seriously as I would if they played it clean.
You don’t know? ITS FREAKING SCIENCE: they measure it in parts per million with accurate records back however many years.
And fyi====SCIENCE CAN TELL where the new co2 comes from because of isotopes or something: decomposition, expiration, volcanoes, or burning coal, or burning oil.
SCIENCE. Smart people spending their lives studying an issue.
Compare and contrast in your Church of Reality?
me, myself, and i spending our lives to be contrarian.
‘measure it’
Sometimes, the comedy just begins to write itself…
Hey Four Tits: I sense you are disagreeing with something, but can’t figure out what.
Baseless cynicism?
Well, four tits would do that to a person.
-Compare and contrast-
size the herd, wide the word, tee the tits for 4X wits; it ain’t no value ’till you measure it…
armies of liberal metrologists aimlessly bumbling forth… measuring things…
— Metrologists perform metrology work involving precision measurement and comparison of physical quantities such as mass, length, time, force, speed, voltage, current and paper or plastic. —
Well, you confuse me Four Tits.
You start by saying that claiming measurement of things is a comedy that will write itself,
but now, you appear to be in favor of measuring, but against it as well.
Kinda wishy washy, ambiguous, confused. Ever had your tits caught in a wringer?
Be clear. Be direct.
did you hear the one about the critic who tried to measure the ryme?
he didn’t have a yardstick.
ha. ha. ha.
601 just kidding
stop
end ‘have a nice day’
Four tits: even Pedro would not use a yardstick to measure a rhyme. No one tool can measure more than a few things.
OTOH–you can use a shit bucket to measure Pedro’s brains….. or a shit thimble. Something with shit anyway.
Gee, being direct is hard.
it was supposed to be a poet and a metre stick, anyways…
ha. ha. ha.
this stuff is hard
I think he meant the Rhine, derp. Still, it doesn’t strike me as particularly humorous.
mmmm mmmee me meh mmeh. measure. I just like the word ‘measure’. What is this word? we purse our lips together and ‘mmmmmmmmeasure’.
you know why yur buttcrack is vertical and not horizontal??
so when you go down the slide, it’s not going ‘gla blu gla blu blu’ when you hit the measuring scanner
you can use your pecker as a measuring implement, also:
pedro: i hear water below; sounds about a six peckdros down…
bobbo: that water is cold
Tim: it is deep, to
umm, God? Hello. Are you there? It’s me, Margaret — Just kidding. Say, Lord; How many dicks in a cubit again?? I think they may have gone back to caucasion without telling us…
^^ that guy is just dumn.
but
“”When you have your cubit (it can be marked on anything, but a piece of wood or pipe cut to size would do), measure out 300 of them to show the length of Noah’s Ark. Get some students to stand between the two points.
if ya’ll try that all together then somebody’s probably gonna be wanting those profilactics right about now…
ohh i forgot the link.
http://creationtips.com/arksize.html
its important to know these things because global warming.
….”Because of this, there are many thousands of scientists who believe the Bible’s account of the Ark and the worldwide Flood,….” //// Cracks me up.
Any bets on how long before the full-scale replica 3-d printed ark kit is on Thingyverse?
Echoing Jon Stewart.
http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/v9n1tt/scientists-hide-global-warming-data
Start from 2:20
NFS===just how stuck on stupid are you?
That clip is the initial dust up. AFTER THAT CLIP, scientists other than Mann evaluated the “raw data” and confirmed the hockey stick analysis was correct even though some shennanigans had taken place.
Do you think that selling snake oil “proves” in any way that cancer cures should not be pursued?
10,000 pieces of data FOR AGW, but some inconsequential fraud about 1.
Stupid.
http://news.msn.com/world/an-entire-island-nation-is-preparing-to-evacuate-to-fiji-before-they-sink-into-the-pacific-1
Interesting factoid in the article: the ocean around Kiribati is going up at 4 times the rate of the average. Seems like ocean currents affect absolute sea level among other variations…… all to come out in the wash?
Uh, the idiom has to do with lining your toes up with everyone else on the line, not hauling the line somewhere.
NASA can’t seem to make up its mind about past temperatures from the past century.
https://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/hansen-giss-1940-1980.gif
is it because of global warming?