Many liberals are adamant there is no threat of voter fraud that justifies efforts to improve the integrity of elections. “There is no real concrete evidence of voter fraud,” tweeted Donna Brazile, former acting chair of the Democratic National Committee, this week. “It’s a big ass lie.” James O’Keefe, the guerilla filmmaker who brought down the ACORN voter-registration fraudsters in 2010 and forced the resignation of NPR executives, politely disagrees.

Today, he is releasing some new undercover footage that raises disturbing questions about ballot integrity in Colorado, the site of fiercely contested races for the U.S. Senate, the U.S. House, and the governorship. When he raised the issue of filling out some of the unused ballots that are mailed to every household in the state this month, he was told by Meredith Hicks, the director of Work for Progress, a liberal group funded by Democratic Super PACS.: “That is not even like lying or something, if someone throws out a ballot, like if you want to fill it out you should do it.” She then brazenly offered O’Keefe, disguised as a middle-aged college instructor, a job with her group.

Colorado secretary of state Scott Gessler, along with several county election clerks, have raised warning flags that a new state law that automatically mails a ballot to everyone is an engraved invitation to commit fraud. “Sending ballots to people who did not even ask for them or have moved out of state is asking for trouble” he told me. For example, little can stop someone who collects discarded ballots from trash cans, fills out the ballots, and mails them in. Election workers are supposed to compare signatures on registration records with signed ballots. But if a person has a “witness” who signs the ballot on the witness line, then the signatures do not have to match and the vote is counted.

  1. bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist and junior culture critic says:

    Why don’t you KILL this website off rather than let it die choking and twisting in the wind?

    Your lack of new material MEANING 2-3 posts per day at a minimum to catch the druthers of your diverse participants has FORCED me to look for other forums to review the issues of the day: Ferguson, Ebola, Isis, Voter Fraud as you post above, War on Wimen, etc. SO MUCH TO CHOOSE FROM…but you give us raisins.

    I still have DU on my news feed so I read the topics, but when I see you complete and utter failure to MANAGE your own product, I figure…why bother?

    Your failure to CONTROL XSA is an INSULT to us all. I’m not saying ban him, I’m saying TAKE THE TIME to educate the slug: delete his irrelevant posts with a note to that effect. He will either come around and you will have made a citizen or he will continue to fail as a human being stuck on the crack that you provide him.

    As Pedro would note: why you riding that donkey?

    • MikeN says:

      I thought XSA was your posting under a pseudonym to make your regular posts look reasonable.

      • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist and junior culture critic says:

        There you go Mickey: thank you.

        I rarely read past the first sentence of his posts, if at all. In the last x months, I think I read one post that was relevant to the thread.

        I note for myself how THE INTERNET has ruined me for books and magazines as my info choice. I read something and I want to do something more than yell at my empty beer cans.


        Who knew being alive was such a privilege????

        If you can’t argue/appreciate both sides of an issue, either the issue really is one sided, completely right or wrong, one way or the other, and about 90% of the peoples agree with you


        You have your head up your ass.

        Hold up your hand: who thinks the Moderators are doing their job of running with website?

        I can make both arguments. I just agree with: they aren’t.

        • Talk and Listen says:

          “…appreciate both sides of an issue…”

          Yes! Because…

          If I disagree with your viewpoint, BUT you appear to be genuine, I really want to know WHY you are so passionate about your position.

          Maybe I’ve missed something. And maybe I come away with more confidence in my own position.

          Either way, it’s civilized learning at its best.

        • MikeN says:

          You’d better stop paying them then.

        • Tim says:

          It is not hard to imagine future Solarians’ favorite themepark — All the sentient beings wandering amongst myriads of statues frozen in impossible Escheresque poise of heads up asses so far that they’re right back where they belong.

          ———–**Enjoy this 10 mil square clicks of antiquity unearthed from the ash of some really, really big fire-god mountain disappeasement somewhere…**————-

    • ± says:

      “…Your failure to CONTROL XSA is an INSULT to us all. I’m not saying ban him, I’m saying TAKE THE TIME to educate the slug: …”

      Where do you draw the line on “educating the slug”? I mean lots of people here have been trying to educate you, but it isn’t working. You still get to post.

      I say banning is a good thing. Many great newsgroups (the best of them) have disappeared because they were unmoderated.

      • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist and junior culture critic says:

        Thats my whole point. When I post a demonstration on how anyone here with the motive and desire to do so can THINK BETTER than they currently do, the Mods can Ban Me, or the Post with a warning not to tell slugs like yourself to think, or as they do, they can ignore me.

        Even flat worms can be taught to avoid the red circles. Shocking, I know……. as you challenge this simple pre-cordate learning by still blowing hard about Third Party Candidates.

        “Drink the Koolaide” is the byline.

    • MikeN says:

      Liberal sense of entitlement.

    • MikeN says:

      While you sound silly, the Sheryl Atkinsson story should have been posted by now. Government deliberately spying on a journalist by hacking her laptop and planting classified info so they can prosecute said journalist.

  2. Let me count the ways says:

    Sooooo many ways to cheat your fellow citizen voters. Here’s a good one from New Hampshire:


    Is immaturity and narcissism to blame? :

  3. Phydeau says:

    James O’Keefe, what a pathetic excuse for a human being. Look him up on wikipedia.

    Sorry folks, there have been many more sightings of UFOs reported than confirmed cases of voting fraud.

    Just man up and admit it — R’s are passing laws to make it harder for certain people to vote. People who vote for Democrats.

    • steelcobra says:

      Exactly, literally everything he does is a manufactured lie with heavy editing to fake his opinions as “documentary.”

    • Sam says:

      You are wrong. Even one fraudulent vote is an injustice to someone else who casts their one vote fairly.

      To believe otherwise is an admission of complacency at best, and a willing participant of voter fraud at worst.

      What are you afraid of?

    • Jonathan says:

      Fido doesn’t like whistle blowers. Fuck him.

    • MikeN says:

      I thought about emulating Phydeau and posting the first comment,”Complaints about OKeefe in 3,2,1…”

      • Phydeau says:

        Out here in the reality-based world, Mikey, there’s enough evidence to prove O’Keefe is just another ratfucker. You won’t find that in the Fox News Bubble though. FYI.

  4. Vote Often? says:

    How many fraud votes are acceptable? Especially in an otherwise close election.

    Can you put a number on it, and justify it?

    • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist and junior culture critic says:

      Name a single “close” election that fradulent voting had any effect at all on?===>you and everyone else CAN’T do it.

      Now….name elections that aren’t close at all that are “REVERSED” because of massive voter restriction schemes====>the expressed Goal of the Pukes. I would look up the links….but who are we kidding that facts matter?

      • Vote Often? says:

        Large elections are on a Newtonian scale. Yes, it would take a lot of voter fraud to throw a major national election.

        But in the overwhelming world of smaller elections, the laws of quantum mechanics prevails.

        A few fraudulent votes can make a difference:

        – Oklahoma state elections, 2006 – Republican Todd Thomsen beat Democrat Darrel Nemecek by two votes for the Oklahoma House of Representatives seat in its 25th district.

        – Rick Jore was elected by two votes: 1,559 for Jore, 1,557 for the Democrat, and 1,108 for the Republican in the 2006 Montana Legislature race.

        – In the 2013 New Jersey elections, Vince Mazzeo ran for a seat in the General Assembly and was declared the winner by 32 votes over the Republican Party incumbent.

        James O’Keefe demonstrated why small matters.

        If you choose to remain in a Newtonian world, OK.
        But the quantum world is far more important to many.

        Petty crimes add up, and it’s difficult to find the perps. A SIMPLE, implementation of Voter ID makes this all go away.

        • Tim says:

          ^^ I don’t suppose I can get a “Ron Paul” here???

        • Tim says:

          “”But in the overwhelming world of smaller elections, the laws of quantum mechanics prevails.

          We all know who really won Copenhagen.


      • Kevin Baker says:

        Al Franken’s Senate race:

        You asked for only one. There you go.

        There are, of course, far more.

        For those interested in the topic of “margin of fraud”:

  5. Fidel says:

    Heres another instance of voter fraud in Illiinois. Yeah I know, big surprise.

    • All the tears says:

      Submitting Fox News as your source. Wow. You’d tossed in the towel, and the bell for the first round hasn’t even rung.

  6. MikeN says:

    Liberals claim no proven cases of voter fraud(itself not true), but ignore the fact that it is difficult to detect since there are no names on ballots. Since it is difficult to detect they say it doesn’t exist and wish to ignore it despite evidence to the contrary.

    • steelcobra says:

      It’s also far more likely to be done in software than by voters manipulating the system. The republicans want to restrict voters to prevent it when closed-source machines that can be easily reprogrammed to shift votes are the real problem.

      And don’t reply with the latest Illinois thing, corruption in politics is a way of life in that state.

      • MikeN says:

        Another example where one can say, show us proof that software reprogramming fraud changed the outcome of an election. Yet absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. These computer voting machines were a mistake from the beginning, and were an overreaction to the 2000 election, in line with certain people’s religious view of technology.

        • Phydeau says:

          LOL. Google “voting machine fraud” and you’ll find all kinds of suspicious events have occurred, all relating to votes for Republicans being surprisingly high compared to exit polls, in ways that have never happened before electronic voting.

          If I was you I’d shut up about it, because voting machine fraud is working in the favor of Republicans. Sheesh.

          • Jonathan says:

            Har, you’re so obviously nervous about this election it’s laughable. But that’s OK, we all know the Libs will get creamed in this election, then it will be the Cons turn to fuck things up.

            Its all so pathetic.

          • Phydeau says:

            Oh geez, another right-wing wacko embarrassed to admit what he is. Pedrito, you got a buddy! 🙂 Dude, you’re a right-winger. Stop pretending. You hate Democrats and liberals. You watch Fox, listen to Limbaugh. Just be who you are, and then maybe you won’t be so angry at everyone else.

          • steelcobra says:

            Hell, easy hacks have been found to quickly change the programming in Diebold machines with a USB stick and a key election officials have.

            For years.

          • Phydeau says:

            The truth hurts, Pedrito, doesn’t it? 😉

        • MikeN says:

          Just like easy steps have been shown how people could hijack paper ballot elections like the video here. Yet then we are told there is no evidence that it’s a big deal.

      • Afaird of Unicorns says:

        What sticks in my craw, is this supposed ‘crisis’ in voter fraud. So much, that, despite not having the funds for needed programs, lawmakers support a very costly law (est. 3.6 million in NC) to quell an almost non-exsisted problem. Where is the fiscal responsibility in this? The fraud is not at the voting booth.

  7. CDC director says:

    umm, yes. You can get ebola from a voting booth if you go to the polls, stand in line, and touch anything. —

    So, the world will soon be rid of libtards and neocons. It’s not like we got anything but the fucktard shadow gov msm promotes anyways.

    • moveon dot fuckwits says:

      that faint-stained fecal-famed fucktarded falsehood flatufarting all up inside the *White House* will probably use its’ privilege to cancel elections as his highly informed ‘votership’ might be afraid to go to the polls because ebola — that, and those people seem to be getting the birdshit out of their eyes and just don’t like him very much anymore.

      If I had to guess, that asslick will probably appoint Jeb Bush to, um, fill his shoes. Foot-in-mouth corprophoria seems to be the mans’ thing.

  8. Tim says:

    “We abolished one machine only to replace it with another and more powerful one in the making.”

  9. Ah_Yea says:

    As usual I have to come in and decide the debate.

    For all the idiots who don’t believe in voter fraud or how it sways elections, and for all those sane people who want to know how tremendous an impact voter fraud has, read this.

    • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist and junior culture critic says:

      Why were the non-citizens who actually voted not prosecuted for fraud?

      If I had the interest…….. “Monkey Cage” is just too ironic a characterization of the article……its readership: chimps waiting for whatever banana is fed to them.

    • McCullough says:

      Good article Ah_yeah…..thanks.

      Its time for bobbo and Phydeau to admit that they were wrong. I wont hold my breath.

      • Phydeau says:

        There are obvious limitations to our research, which one should take account of when interpreting the results. Although the CCES sample is large, the non-citizen portion of the sample is modest, with the attendant uncertainty associated with sampling error. We analyze only 828 self-reported non-citizens. Self-reports of citizen status might also be a source of error, although the appendix of our paper shows that the racial, geographic, and attitudinal characteristics of non-citizens (and non-citizen voters) are consistent with their self-reported status.

        Fair enough, here’s one data point. Every other serious research about voter fraud dismisses this as insignificant. There are enough O’Keefeian ratfuckers out there I’d have to see more data on this. This guy could be just another right-wing hack with an axe to grind. If this is relevant, other researchers will pick it up.

        • Jonathan says:

          You have been handed two prime examples of voter fraud, including a video record of it for fux sake. And yet you still hang onto a thread that it doesn’t exist.

          It exists, you support it, so just admit it.

          • Phydeau says:

            Jonny boy, O’Keefe is a proven fraud. This other guy may be another ratfucker. If his assertions hold weight, others will confirm them. The fact that NO ONE over the years of any political stripe has found in-person voter fraud to be a problem kinda gives you your answer. Even Dubya’s Justice Department did a 5-year study on voter fraud and found nothing. You’re just seeing what you want to see.

            (There are “scientists” who deny anthropogenic global warming, even though 99.9% of scientists agree it exists.)

            But thanks for playing. Now go back to your Fox news. 🙂

          • MikeN says:

            Other researchers will pick it up, you mean the people like you who say there’s no problem, nothing that needs to be studied?

          • Phydeau says:

            Let me guess, Mikey… you believe the one or two “scientists” who say anthropogenic global warming doesn’t exist, versus the 99.9% of scientists who agree that it does exist?

            That mindset explains a lot here. Yes, there are one or two people with “rock solid proof” that in-person voter fraud exists. Then there’s the 99.9% of researchers (liberal *and* intellectually honest conservative) who say it doesn’t.

            You go ahead and believe who you want.

            Geez Fox News really does addle the brain. 🙂

      • Jonathan says:

        “The heat is not missing,” said University of Victoria climate scientist Andrew Weaver, who is also a Green Party member of the British Columbia parliament. “The heat is there. The heat is in the ocean.”

        Its down there with Godzilla!

  10. Phydeau says:

    This is just one of the many examples of why Fox News voters are so lathered up about (nonexistent) voter fraud: Fox News Just Makes Stuff Up ™.

    First, 9News anchor Kyle Clark drew attention to Kelly’s remarks and said, “We normally reserve our truth test for political ads, but that claim is misleading.” He explained that the only voters allowed to print out and turn in ballots that way are military and overseas voters. No other Coloradans will be allowed to vote that way.

    Fox News was caught in a barefaced, blatant lie. And of course they didn’t correct themselves. They never do.

    It’s tough debating with people who have no mooring in reality. 🙁

  11. Jonathan says:

    You are correct that Fox News got it wrong. But that has no bearing on this post or the fact that a Virginia Senator’s son resigned a couple of years ago in a clear cut admission of (non-existent) voter fraud.

    “He’ll need bills,” says Moran. “He’ll need something with the name and their address on it.” He adds, “they can fake a utility bill with ease, you know?”

    Keep trying.

    • Phydeau says:

      Yes, another O’Keefe baiting scheme. Keep trying. 🙂

      • Jonathan says:

        Yes, he baits criminals and reels em in. Then they resign. So again you support criminal behavior?

        Well good for you.

        • Phydeau says:

          He baits people, gets sued and loses and has to pay. But you been watching all that BS on Fox News, Jonny boy, understandable that you’d be misinformed.

          I’m done with you, Jonny boy. Can’t discuss astronomy with someone who believes the sun rises in the west. You keep on believing the folks who swore to you that Rmoney and McCain before him were sure to win those presidential elections.

        • Tim says:

          pedro says he throws acid on puppies. Or, something…..

  12. Jonathan says:

    Sorry to disappoint, but I haven’t had commercial TV for years. So I really have no way to watch Fox News. Didn’t vote for Romney or McCain. But keep on believing what you want to believe.

    What I will say is this criminal resigned, because of O’Keefe and I am good with whatever it takes to remove them from the system, be it Republican, Democrat, or Libertarian.

    Apparently if its a Liberal criminal you’re all in.



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