Windows 10 Rollback

You can only do this for up to one month after upgrading. This is only valid for upgrades to Windows 10. IT WILL NOT WORK FOR CLEAN INSTALLS.

  1. Take it or leave it says:

    Want some cheese with your whine?

  2. spsffan says:

    I have to agree with Noname. Add to it that it seems to be very much downplayed that Windows 10 is a subscription service like an antivirus program that will require you to pay every year or your computer is useless.

    No thanks.

    I suppose you could install something else like Linux on the machine after refusing to pay the MS extortion, but you could do that now.

    As far as it goes, I’m okay with 8.1.

    • Cap'n Kangaroo says:

      Please give a citation where Microsoft says Windows 10 is a subscription model for normal users (ie non-enterprise).

      My understanding is Windows 10 is free when you upgrade from 7, 8, 8.1 (maybe Vista but not sure). But this upgrade must be done before July 30 of next year. After that date there will be a charge to upgrade to Windows 10 much the same as there was to upgrade to Windows 7 and 8. There is NO yearly fee to contine to use Windows 10 on the machine you upgraded.

      • ± says:

        A shill is outed.

      • spsffan says:

        I have to say that I stand corrected, and I apologize for the confusion. Upon doing some research, it seems that there was a lot of confusion on this a while back, and Microsoft has made some clarifications in the meantime.

        The original problem was that MS said that the upgrade was “free for one year”. This means that you can upgrade for free until July 2016, not that you have to pay to keep your licence after the first year.

        BUT: It does appear that MS is working towards a subscription model for the next incarnation of Windows.

  3. Card-carrying Mensa member says:

    I’m too old / have too many better things to do than to install anything from Microsoft with a “.0” version number!

    Hell, they can’t even *count* right:

    3.0 / 3.1 / 3.11 (Wndows for Workgroups)
    95 (Version 4?)
    98/98SE (Version 5/5.1?)
    Me (Version 6?)
    XP (Version 7?)
    Vista (Version 8?)
    7 (Version 9?)
    8 (Version 10?)​
    (9 – MIA… WTF happened to 9/11?)
    10 (Version 11?)

    P.S. Bill Gates is the richest man in the world — whose money did he get? Yours, maybe? 😉

    • Paul Lee says:

      3.0 / 3.1 / 3.11 (Windows for Workgroups)
      95/98/98SE/Me (Version 4/4.1/4.2/4.3?)
      XP (Version 5?)
      Vista (Version 6?)
      7 (Version 7?)
      8 (Version 8?)​
      (9 – MIA… WTF happened to 9/11?)
      10 (Version 9?)

      • app market says:


        You forgot NT and CE…

        Nobody does bloatware like Microsoft…
        Culling the worst from Winblows CE, ME, and NT … We codenamed the new system Windows CEMENT. The first operating system specifically designed to sink employee moral and weigh computers down like a stone.

      • Pierre Larsen says:

        This list is somewhat more comprehensive (though probably not complete)

        11-1985 Windows 1.0 (1.01)
        11-1987 Windows 2.0 (2.03)
        05-1988 Windows 2.1 (2.10)
        03-1989 Windows 2.11 (2.11)
        05-1990 Windows 3.0 (3.0)
        03-1992 Windows 3.1 (3.1)
        10-1992 Windows For Workgroups 3.1 (3.1)
        07-1993 Windows NT 3.1 (NT 3.1.528)
        12-1993 Windows For Workgroups 3.11 (3.11)
        01-1994 Windows 3.2 (NT 3.2)
        09-1994 Windows NT 3.5 (NT 3.5.807)
        05-1995 Windows NT 3.51 (NT 3.51.1057)
        08-1995 Windows 95 (4.0.950)
        07-1996 Windows NT 4.0 (NT 4.0.1381)
        06-1998 Windows 98 (4.10.1998)
        05-1999 Windows 98 SE (4.10.2222)
        02-2000 Windows 2000 (NT 5.0.2195)
        09-2000 Windows ME (4.90.3000)
        10-2001 Windows XP (NT 5.1.2600)
        03-2003 Windows XP 64-bit Edition (NT 5.2.3790)
        04-2003 Windows Server 2003 (NT 5.2.3790)
        04-2005 Windows XP Professional x64 Edition (NT 5.2.3790)
        07-2006 Windows Fundamentals for Legacy PCs (NT 5.1.2600)
        11-2006 Windows Vista (NT 6.0.6002)
        07-2007 Windows Home Server (NT 5.2.4500)
        02-2008 Windows Server 2008 (NT 6.0.6002)
        10-2009 Windows 7 (NT 6.1.7601)
        10-2009 Windows Server 2008 R2 (NT 6.1.7601)
        04-2011 Windows Home Server 2011 (NT 6.1.8400)
        09-2012 Windows Server 2012 (NT 6.2.9200)
        10-2012 Windows 8 (NT 6.2.9200)
        10-2013 Windows 8.1 (NT 6.3.9600)
        10-2013 Windows Windows Server 2012 R2 (NT 6.3.9600)
        07-2015 Windows 10 (NT 10.0.10240)
        ??-201? Windows Server 2016 (NT 10.0.10???)

        If you look at the NT build numbers then Vista could have been Windows 6. Windows 8 should have been Windows 9 and we are now back on track with Windows 10)

        As far as I know – the build numbers are used internally at Microsoft by testers and programmers – though each windows release also has code names.

        Namewise it sure is a mess. Marketing is obviously one of the main culprits.

        • Pierre Larsen says:


          Windows 3.2 was not NT 3.2 but just 3.2 (it was DOS based)

          There are probably other errors.

        • Greg Allen says:

          Where to you place Microsoft Bob and Win CE?

          I really liked Bob conceptually but, obviously, it was an epic fail.

          It seemed to me that a “home” was a better metaphor than a “window”. v

    • ± says:

      I’m too lazy to study it, but did you forget “Bob”?

      “Bob” is 20 years old this year.

      Microsoft should fire 96% of it’s marketing department and demand that engineering come up with something good that sells itself.

      • Greg Allen says:

        Oh, you beat me to Bob.

        I think I was the only person who liked Bob.

        I didn’t use it, myself, but I installed it for a co-worker who constantly was getting lost in Windows.

        He loved it! The concept made intuitive sense to him.

      • Greg Allen says:

        The other OS is XBox.

        I have even looked at it, but it seems like a success.

  4. Tom says:

    I updated three of my machine today and all of them are working fine. No problems and it is definitely more spritely than 8.1 was…

    • ± says:


      • Cap'n Kangaroo says:

        As compared to a doomsayer? A hater? An Apple or Linux fanboy who deems it their Holy Mission to badmouth anything Microsoft?

        • Mike says:

          There are lots of them about, and with the release of windows 8 (not 8.1) who could blame them. It was great on phones, ok on tablets, and a steaming pile of crap on any ‘real’ computer.
          10 however is really nice and shows MS is starting to listen to its customers again instead of just forcing crap down everyones’ throats like apple and google do.
          Theres still a lot of work left to do, but so far so good.

  5. I'm as MAD as HELL and I'm NOT going to take it any more! I'm switching to LINUX!!! says:

    I think my -sig- says it all…

    Hey Microsoft! Eat my shorts!!!

    Roll back? How about roll OFF?! There is little or no choice anymore. But what cranks my handle is NO CHOICE where updates are concerned and no more Media Center either (not to be confused with Media PLAYER). It’s take the updates like a child takes medicine with no concern for data caps or don’t use the OS (Windows Home, that is). So fine! There is absolutely no reason for me to continue using Microsoft’s bloated bag of expensive bits any way. I’ll probably just use Windows 7 until it gets the heave ho and then I’ll be a full time Linux user with MythTV filling in where Windows Media Center once did. (I’m half way there NOW since Microsoft just recently ended the free TV program listings service that I relied on for DVR functionality.)

  6. Marc Pugner says:

    “If you like your old OS, you can keep it!”

  7. Mr Diesel says:

    I noticed the Win10 upgrade button on the bottom of two of my systems. I clicked one and it tells me it can’t upgrade because of a video card issue. Good, now I won’t be tempted.

    The second, it must be okay because as I type this it is waiting for me to accept or decline the terms.

    Now that I have read this thread they can eat shit and die. Win7Pro in my experience has been the absolute best OS MS ever produced. I run for months with no reboots or issues.

    Next stop if I ever have to upgrade will be Linux.

  8. jimbo says:

    I’ve heard they’ll remove the advertisements from Solitaire for the low, low price of $1.49 a month!

    • Likes2LOL says:

      Maybe they should just include a “Please just donate your hard-earned dollars us” link on the homepage? 😉

  9. orchidcup says:

    My “upgrade” to Windows 10 failed miserably.

    If you installed executable programs on drive D: you are screwed.

    If you moved your default Windows user folders to drive D: you are screwed.

    The sound device drivers in Win 10 claim to be operating properly but no sound will come out of the speakers no matter how many different settings I use.

    Fortunately I backed up my system With Acronis True Image and I was able to recover my Windows 7 Pro installation.

    Long live Windows 7 Pro!

    • mojo says:

      Buy a full copy now. Start archiving service packs and hotfixes.

      MS will eventually abandon it in a back alley, like they did XP.

    • Mike says:

      Worked fine with my applications that I had installed to the non-windows drive.
      I did a clean install afterwards anyway, but your issues are probably specific to your system.

  10. steve says:

    Only 1 of my 3 monitors would receive signal after 10 install,others not in device mgr,so f%&! It,I did a drive clone just prior to install and just changed out the drives,I’ll deal with I’ll when I’m in a mood to waste more time.

  11. NewFormatSux says:

    If You Upgraded To Windows 10, YOU ARE AN IDIOT.

    Fixed the headline for you.

  12. mojo says:

    Hey, I had to run NT 3.5 in a server environment, don’t complain to me. I’ll just laugh sardonically.

    Never, EVER, be the first to try an MS operating system.

    Oh, and MS? When I want a phone OS on my high-end workstation, I’ll give you a call, hmmm?

    • Maɪkrɵsɒːft says:

      Your neighbor called; She said that you were really, really interested in getting windows 10. She was quite adamant about it, really — Moreso, even, than was quite warranted by the $3 rebate we ‘promised’ her to not find the option to check to not to tell all with the free install.

  13. mojo says:

    PS: The data-tracking spyware shouldn’t be there in the first fucking place, never mind turning it off. If Joe Corporate needs that crap, they can get it as an add-on.

    MS is trying to institute their own twisted version of the Apple “walled garden” concept, I think.


  14. Likes2LOL says:

    It bears repeating: Besides device-driver developers and cat-killing curiosity seekers, who in their RIGHT MIND updates to a point-zero version of any Windows product?

    Seriously, folks…. WHY? It is your quest for “safer” computing? Ha, ha, ha,
    ha, ha,
    ha, ha!

    • Mike says:

      Hardly a .zero release. This thing has been banged on for a year and is built using the same stable platform 8 was. Thank god they reeled the UI back to what people wanted rather than forcing some garbage on us like with 8.

  15. Tom says:

    I’ve updated 27 windows 8.1 machines to windows 10 pro now and not a problem with any of them. That is pretty impressive in my book! Microsoft got it right this time.

  16. I will not update Windows until I know for sure that the latest version is stable

  17. Greg Allen says:

    This is why I prefer Linux.

    Even so, I’m using a Windows computer right now! Like-it-or-not, I have to keep one around.

  18. Greg Allen says:


    I think Microsoft needs to follow the car model:

    Economy car:
    1) a minimal version for people who browse the web and stream videos. (all about ease.)

    2) A full version for home, school and office (all about productivity)

    3) A customizable version for gamers. (all about horsepower)

    4) A high-end, unlocked version for professionals, developers, big data, etc (all about perfect installation)

    #1 is free, paid for by apps. Phones, netbooks, tablets, etc.

    #3 and #4 is were innovation will come from. This then can be trickle down to #2.

    • Greg Allen says:

      OK, not lastly…

      Four version, non crippled. No “NT” or “student” versions.

      Just four versions: No confusion about which one you need.

      And incremental upgrades are free.

      • Home Alone says:

        One more model, please…

        5) Stealth:
        All about “Privacy”, for the introvert who essentially wants read-only Internet, no social media, no-cloud computing.

        Unless breaking the law or becoming a threat, a user should have the right to privacy and be left alone.

  19. Benjamin says:

    It will be the year of Linux on the Desktop.

  20. Jullio Gallo says:

    I tried Windows 10 for 3 days. Went back to 7Ultimate. Win 10 sucks.

  21. Dwight E. Howell says:

    I was told to update to Win 10 yesterday. It failed. When I finally gave up and turned update off and rebooted my machine was fine. I call that win for both me and MS. Reasons for failure may be my video card or DNS problems by AT&T. In any event after listening to Steve Gibson I think I’ll just continue to run Win 7 on this old machine. The future of computing may be Hal like skynet like machines that know all but I’m old and I don’t have a camera or microphone on this old but still powerful computer. Oh yeah my 4k 40 inch monitor doesn’t do touch either. Turning into an antique.

  22. bobbo, in point of fact says:

    Only reason I have upgraded from Win 98 forwards skipping a few here and there and going to and back from Linux is in order “to do” something. I remember wanting USB capability.

    But NOW….. I’m really looking to build a Virtual Reality system to take on Occulus Rift though my main goal I think will be Visus. Pros and Cons to all including Samsungs Gear VR.

    Other than the VR programs to come, I think being immersed into and flying around with a detailed google Earth (more than what I’ve seen so far) could be a good time waster.

    Seems to me upgrading to Win 10 is the way to go. Other than that…..Win XP and 7 have both been just totally acceptable. Linus except for video editing programs I’ve gotten used to using.



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