What’s that favorite right wing law and order phrase — If you can’t do the time, ya shouldn’t do the crime?
Charges Sought Against Rumsfeld Over Prison Abuse
Just days after his resignation, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is about to face more repercussions for his involvement in the troubled wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. New legal documents, to be filed next week with Germany’s top prosecutor, will seek a criminal investigation and prosecution of Rumsfeld, along with Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, former CIA director George Tenet and other senior U.S. civilian and military officers, for their alleged roles in abuses committed at Iraq’s Abu Ghraib prison and at the U.S. detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
The plaintiffs in the case include 11 Iraqis who were prisoners at Abu Ghraib, as well as Mohammad al-Qahtani, a Saudi held at Guantanamo, whom the U.S. has identified as the so-called “20th hijacker” and a would-be participant in the 9/11 hijackings. As TIME first reported in June 2005, Qahtani underwent a “special interrogation plan,” personally approved by Rumsfeld, which the U.S. says produced valuable intelligence. But to obtain it, according to the log of his interrogation and government reports, Qahtani was subjected to forced nudity, sexual humiliation, religious humiliation, prolonged stress positions, sleep deprivation and other controversial interrogation techniques.
Lawyers for the plaintiffs say that one of the witnesses who will testify on their behalf is former Brig. Gen. Janis Karpinski, the one-time commander of all U.S. military prisons in Iraq.
#21, You really are just full of it. . If America is so shitty than move to Germany and don’t come back. …
Comment by Gertrude — 11/11/2006 @ 1:40 pm
Why not just crawl back under your rock and stay there. Your post brings nothing to the discussion excepting your own putrid notion that you are superior. Well, the news is, you suck.
>if Rummy hasn’t done anything wrong, then what’s everybody so worried about?
I suppose you agree that police shouldn’t need warrants to search houses, or even a suspicion of a specific crime. If you haven’t done anything wrong, what are you worried about?
#31 – You win the Troll of the Day award. Nice post!
#33, coming from you, it sounds so hollow
Your headline “Germany To Prosecute Rummy, Gonzales And Tenant For Abu Ghraib and Gitmo Abuse” is incorrect.
Germany is a free country, i.e. every nutcase can go to a prosecutor.
The German prosecutors have not made any decision in this matter yet
The plaintiffs are Iraqis, not Germans. The plaintiffs are supported by an American NGO, not a German NGO. They WANT to have a criminal investigation in Germany, but it is doubtful whether they will get one.
They have not even contacted the German prosecutors yet. They have just issued a press release, picked up by TIME magazine. That’s all that happened, but the American blogosphere goes ballistic and blames Germany, although Germany has not done anything. Crazy.
Apparently, many American bloggers are so convinced that Germans are Anti-American that they can’t see straight anymore.
German prosecutors have dismissed similar cases in the past.
This is explained in more detail in the Atlantic Review, which is edited by three German Fulbright Alumni.
Don’t worry. When Bush gives Angela Merkel one of his famous shoulder massages, the lawsuits just melt away along with all the tensions.
“Qahtani was subjected to forced nudity, sexual humiliation, religious humiliation, prolonged stress positions, sleep deprivation and other controversial interrogation techniques.” How HORRIBLE!
If people want REAL prisoner abuse to compare this with, I suggest they read FLYBOYS by James Bradley. In it he chronicles how some American Navy fighter pilots were shot down off Chichi Jima during WW2,and subsequently captured by the Japanese. Some of them were cut up and EATEN. In one case the guy was being kept alive in the hope the meat would stay fresh.
ya know… I dont see this happening
#35 josh in berlin….thanks….I was just going to point out that there are no German citizens among the 11 people whose suit this is. And none of the supposed crimes occurred in Germany.
And Jagermiester….you stated the UN….well, I got news for you….the U.S isn’t the UN…..you bet your butt we veto all those asinine resolutions against Isreal……someone has to.
#39
It’s great to be a bully with a veto option… you can save a fellow bully’s ass when he’s in trouble.