When it comes to the debate over whether former White House aide Lewis “Scooter” Libby should be pardoned, the Republican presidential field is split between “yes,” “no,” “maybe” and “I’d have to study the transcript.”

Only two candidates said outright that they would offer a pardon to Vice President Dick Cheney’s former chief of staff — Sen. Sam Brownback of Kansas and Rep. Tom Tancredo of Colorado. The discouraging news for Libby, as he tries to avoid prison, is that those two White House hopefuls combined, have a scant 3 percent support in the latest average of national polls.

Two other candidates who are currently long shots, former Virginia Gov. Jim Gilmore and Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, said they would not pardon Libby.

The rest waffled.



  1. BubbaRay says:

    At the risk of offending everyone here, I’ll say this one more time:

    You shouldn’t vote just for the candidate, you should research the people with whom he surrounds himself. Ron Paul has some great advisors (visit his website). Do you really want Hill and Billy’s friends back in power? If the voters had informed themselves about Dick Cheney and his ties to Halliburton, what are the chances GW would still be POTUS?

  2. TheGlobalWarmer says:

    #30 – Glad to help my friend. 😉

    #31 – The only reason GW is in is that people realized that Algore and Kerry would have been unmeasurably worse.

  3. natefrog says:

    #32: Yes, the Supreme Court had nothing at all to do with 2000. . . (sarcasm, by the way)

  4. joshua says:

    McCain has always been my candidate. But, he is kissing the wrong asses this time around and I’m not so sure I can support him, family friend or not.

    My problem is that the over all field for both parties is cluttered with very flawed candidates. Look at the list….it’s truely sad.
    People are so desperate for someone different that they actually overlook Ron Pauls past and voting record and policies. Or Guliani’s record prior to 9/11….except for lowering crime in NY, he hasn’t done anything but cheat on his wife and dress in drag. Hillary, no matter how good she might be means bringing Bill back to the WH…..and all the polls show that only blacks and the most hard core Democrats want that to happen. People just don’t want him in office, even as the spouse of the President. Obama is starting to fade, people are starting to look at him as just to much rhetoric and no substance….everyone is saying….come back in 4 or 8 years. McCain may be just to old.
    The rest are second tier candidates who could maybe be a VP……the darling of the media this week is Thompson, but I honestly don’t see him going very far. He not only supports Bush on the war now, but dosen’t think he really made any mistakes…..even the neo-cons know thats a loser position.

    This has got to be the most well known bunch of losers to ever run for their parties nominations in this country. We really need a new way to do this.

  5. TheGlobalWarmer says:

    #33 – All they did was stop Algore’s illegal recounts.

    I say the President should be drafted by random lottery.

  6. TheGlobalWarmer says:

    #36 – Uhh dude, I think you’ve wandered into the wrong thread.

  7. OhForTheLoveOf says:

    #32 – #31 – The only reason GW is in is that people realized that Algore and Kerry would have been unmeasurably worse.

    Comment by TheGlobalWarmer — 6/6/2007 @ 4:05 pm

    If by that you mean a people were almost split dead center on a false belief that they were choosing between the devil they knew and the devil they didn’t, because voters vote for president with no more inside than high school freshmen use to select Student Council Treasurer…

    Gore even won the popular count, which is how we should elect Presidents anyway, and the evidence of vote tampering in Florida (and Ohio in 04) gets stronger every day.

    So no, the people didn’t think anything is immeasurably anything. The people were lied to and the people are easily duped.

  8. TheGlobalWarmer says:

    #38 – the choice was between a devil we knew and incalculable evil and the possible end of America as a desirable place to live.

    There have been 3 other Presidents who did not get a majority of the popular vote but won because of the Electoral College. I say this is proof of the value of the Electoral college. As I’m sure you know, our system was never intended to have the people directly electing the Pres. It is supposed to be the states electing a Pres. The EC is there specifically to lessen chance of the sheer populations of NY and CA dominating national elections.

    If there were any changes to the EC I’d rather see it go the other way to 1 state, 1 vote. That would force a candidate to campaign equally hard in all 50 states.

  9. OhForTheLoveOf says:

    #39 possible end of America as a desirable place to live.

    Seriously, WTF does that mean?

    We lived through Reagan and two Bushes… We survived that. We could easily survive competent leaders like Gore or Kerry.

  10. TheGlobalWarmer says:

    I did say “possible end” – we did survive Carter so I’ll give you that.

    Actually I remember the Reagan era as being pretty good (and no I’m not rich and never have been)


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