One of the “tidier” border crossings

Mexico is demanding that U.S. Border Patrol agents stop using tear gas to protect themselves against increased attacks as they try to keep illegal immigrants from entering the United States.

Mexico’s Foreign Ministry also requested a U.S. probe into an incident last month where 15-year-old Cristian Saldana was struck in the nose by a tear gas canister after he threw stones at U.S. agents trying to stop people from crossing illegally from the Mexican border city of Tijuana near San Diego…

Border-wide assaults on agents reached a record 250 between October 1 and December 16 last year, according to the latest U.S. figures.

I could suggest substitutes for tear gas; but, they probably wouldn’t be considered politically correct either.




  1. caa says:

    politically incorrect? you mean something like a 5.56x45mm round? There are some pretty nasty pepper ball rounds, maybe they can use them on some tacos.

  2. Improbus says:

    Electrify the fence.

  3. Aaron says:

    Escalation of force seems to ALWAYS work well. I have a couple of other suggestions to end this issue right away:

    1) Dump billions of dollars on the problem.

    2) Declare “War” on emigration.

    It’s fool proof! There’s no way we could lose!

  4. Lord Crimson says:

    Mexican President Felipe Calderon says U.S. treatment of undocumented Mexican workers is “abusive” and amounts to persecution.

    As I see it, one man’s persecution is another man protecting his country and its freedoms. The Mexican government has been a total failure in matters concerning their own country, so why should we take advice from them on how to run ours?

  5. JimR says:

    Shoot them with RFID tags?

  6. qsabe says:

    It appears the crossing points are easily identified by the garbage left behind. I suggest a moat with alligators. But then they would eat the gators and drink the moat dry, sigh.. Electrify the fence and you would provide power to homes all along the border. Maybe a double fence with guard dogs but that would just cheapen the cost of taco’s. Guess there is no solution, unless we open brothels and drug houses and such on our side of the border and drive them out of business. That’s it, the American way, use money.

  7. Let’s just do what Mexico tells us to do. Oh, wait. We’re doing that now.

  8. JimR says:

    Giant fans blowing south? Garbage problem solved too.

    Seriously though, are we that short of brains (I say we, even though I’m an Eskimo) that a team of scholars couldn’t devise a long term solution if they tried?

  9. the Three-Headed Cat™ says:

    Oh, here we go, ‘victimizing’ those poor people again. When are we ever going to learn, it’s all our fault.

  10. Gosh says:

    Two different ladies have emptied the trash from my office over the last three years. One was from Honduras and the other from Santo Domingo. Mexicans have cut my grass, and I don’t know who did the foundation repair on my house.

    We need to decide what is more important, cheap labor or illegal immigration, but we have not. It is not surprising that otherwise intelligent people believe we “do what Mexico tells us”. Actually, we do what our own conflicting impulses direct us to do, which is sort of like drooling.

  11. eyeofthetiger says:

    The minute men had a conference in Kansas City last night. They supplied coffee and food for the people protesting their conference. Mexico has the highest per capita of billionaires on the planet. Yet, half of GDP is money sent back there from the it’s citizens living in a foreign country. The comedic range has reached epic levels. Tequila shots for everyone, gringo.

  12. Thomas says:

    If cheap labor is the overriding principle, then instead of making these people criminals, simply open the border and eliminate minimum wage.
    If minimum wage is important, then cheap labor is clearly not the overriding principle.

  13. Cinaedh says:

    Perhaps someone could enlighten me here: exactly when did the U.S. stop shooting people who were invading their country?

    Just curious, that’s all…

  14. Don Coyote says:

    Wonder if the Border Control could solve two problems by using rail guns to shoot Mexicans at Mexicans.

  15. bando26 says:

    What? They told them to stop using tear gas because they threw a canister of it at a 15-year-old? You can throw anything!

  16. Named says:

    15,

    You can’t have it both ways. Is the US a protectionist, insular society with closed borders and a self-contained industry, or is it a haven for migrants and a deal-broker for labour around the world?

    As a Canadian, I’ve always remembered the US where the “poor, huddled masses” could find refuge, solace and freedom in America. Unfortunately, that part of America disappeared sometime ago, I just can’t put my finger on exactly when.

    Also as a Canadian, I can attest that the US DOES try to have it both ways… You guys put huge tariffs on our lumber imports and at the same time you subsidize your agro-corps up the ass…

    You guys LOVE migrant workers. They provide nanny care, janitorial services, manual labour and all kinds of valuable yet derided positions that Americans are not doing, or doing very poorly. Or maybe you guys can do a good job, but since you demand a living wage for it, your fellow Americans are balking at that idea…

  17. MikeN says:

    How about we just copy Mexico’s policies on policing the border? Whatever they are doing on their smaler border with Guatemala, we’ll do on ours.

  18. traaxx says:

    While they might say otherwise, the Poland Police Department considers rocks a deadly weapon, one capable of causing serious physical injury but not readily designed for causing serious physical injury – a gun or knife, they allow officers to shoot bullets in response to rocks. Cap-stun and tasers are considered a restrained response.

    We are becoming a sublet of Mexico, through invasion, bullets seems a just and fair response.

    Funny, all the jobs that get exported to Mexico end up going to China. Exactly what will a North American Union do to change that? If they are going to protect the NAU with tariffs then why not protect the US now with tariffs? The answer is that either won’t, more likely, or they are causing the current retrograde growth of the US economy for ideological ends.

    Name one thing that is or even was good that came from Mexico? Don’t say the food, what we call Mexican food is something the Mexicans don’t eat, their rich don’t eat. It’s as Mexican as French Fries, yes I’ve lived on the border and in Central America for many many years. I didn’t like their culture then and I don’t like it imported here now.

    I’m so angry and frustrated that given the chance I’ll support with money and work any party( irrespective of ideology ) that will offer to stop this crap, I’m serious. I’d first exile the elites and rich that have invited this invasion from Mexico to Mexico, then Mexico becoming a glass paving lot would sound pretty permanent and pleasantly finale.

    Iraq could descend into the hell they want and obviously need, where they can merge with Iran and through that union turn Europe and the Middle East into the Islamic continent that the elite seem determined to bring about.

  19. traaxx says:

    PS,

    It was the French that hung the “Poor masses” thing on the US, and the Northern Self-interested oriented elite that promoted it. I’ve rejected it ever since I was old enough to understand it.

    Only the trash immigrate, those with any self respect or anything to loose will always stay in their own country.

    Now with Welfare and all the social services we really get the real trash.

  20. MikeN says:

    No, sometimes it’s the skilled that emigrate, because their home country won’t let them reap the benefits of those skills.

  21. bobbo says:

    23–traax==Characterizing human beings as trash is (I hope) actually a good description of the societies in which poor people are born and that society offers no means of bettering oneself?

    Is that what you mean by trash–like what happens to only a lesser degree but moreso each day right here in the GOUSA?

  22. satman says:

    # 23

    So I take it you are a full blooded native American , then?

  23. sam says:

    To #19 It was Emma Lazarus who said America was for the world’s “Wretched Refuse”!
    Give me your tired, your huddled masses,
    Yearning to breathe free.
    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
    — Emma Lazarus
    Smith explained that Emma Lazarus — like many other immigration activists — was a Jewish partisan who supported the creation of an exclusively Jewish Zionist state in Palestine, but who supported “diversity” for America. He pointed out to me how Jews such as Lazarus have even changed the modern meaning of the Statue of Liberty. The beautiful jade-colored colossus had no original connection with immigration and predated the Ellis Island immigration center. It was a gift from France to commemorate the American Revolution, not to honor the arrival of “wretched refuse” on America’s shores. It is instructive to note that this beautiful statue of European Womanhood faces not to Africa, Asia or South America, but the land where she was born, France and Europe itself.

    Emma Lazarus had been best known for her fulminations against Russia’s pogroms following the assassination of Czar Alexander II in 1881. The irony is rich: A Jewish supremacist dedicated to the creation of an elite Jewish State in Palestine was anxious to turn America into a refuge for the castoffs of the world. Drew Smith owned many books on the immigration issue, including some by Jews, in which he had underlined important passages. I borrowed them and passionately delved into them.

    http://www.davidduke.com/general/my-awakening-chapter-24-the-jewish-role-in-immigration_2518.html

  24. bobbo says:

    #27–Sam==thanks for posting. I don’t know how much “truth” is in your post and how far afield it goes from there, but in general, in matters little how things “started” and it only matters how things stand today and how they go?

    Interesting that anyone would actually post anything from David Duke and think it would have credibility?

  25. the Three-Headed Cat™ says:

    Careful, bobbo. Guilt-by-association has a serious downside. It plays to the false, implied black-and-white-thinking-promotion used by propagandists.

    Words & ideas can stand or fall on their own merits or lack thereof. And admittedly it often helps to know who-said-what in looking for evidence of bias, but that’s generally as far as that goes.

    Even certifiably evil people often have completely correct ideas about various things – rejecting their words because of who they come from rather than what the ideas actually are is falling for the ad hom. fallacy. It may make you feel all virtuous, but it won’t get you a micron closer to the truth.

  26. bobbo says:

    #29–3HC==I agree completely as a matter of fact, and did try to incorporate that idea in my post. I guess I was too oblique.

    However, I disagree as a matter of time management. I don’t give credence to office seekers on what they will do once elected, I don’t give credence to defense attorney’s talking about their cases, and I don’t give credence to racists on issues involving race.

    Not saying David Duke isn’t entirely accurate in every nuance==I do not trust it to be the case, and its not worth my time to check it out.

  27. j says:

    Nice nazi propaganda there sam.

    Emma Lazarus wrote the colossus to raise money for the pedestal and brought an enthusiasm to the fund raising effort by the words contained. It was written by her description of a situation that was already taking place not to coerce people or to turn America into a ” refuge for the castoffs of the world.” It already was that and had been for some time. Her poem was added in 1903 only 17 years after the erection of the statue so any argument that the meaning has changed over the last 100 years to the one we have today is false

    “A Jewish supremacist ” LOL nice propaganda. She was more of an American supremacist.

    Your assertions that the Statue of Liberty faces Europe is wrong. It actually faces southeast which is the direction of the entrance to the harbor. So once again nice propaganda. with a simple fact like that it is apparent you did nothing but read nazi propaganda and regurgitate it.

  28. BobbyJoe says:

    Tag ’em and Bag ’em

  29. j says:

    Oh forgive me thats right David Duke is not a member of the American Nazi Party he was in the KKK.

    So change all Nazi propoganda to KKK propoganda

  30. j says:

    three headed kitty

    “Even certifiably evil people often have completely correct ideas about various things – rejecting their words because of who they come from rather than what the ideas actually are is falling for the ad hom. fallacy.”

    Oh the Irony!!!! You have done that on repeted occasions. Just when I thought you and I were on the same page.


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