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Apparently the government doesn’t understand what spoofing is and cannot seem to do actual investigative work. This tale is shameful.
Found by Wayne Bronikowski.
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You called us terrorist-lovers but…
We told you so.
# 34 Greg Allen said, “You called us terrorist-lovers but… we are really lovers of 16 year old boys…
Okay.
Paddy, you’re comparing a potential act of war with a 17-year old making threats over the phone. Something tells me his top aides know the difference.
# 37 Olo Baggins of Bywater said, “Paddy, you’re comparing a potential act of war with a 17-year old making threats over the phone.”
Nope, battling pirates in international waters has nothing to do with warring against a nation. Nice dodge but, no go. O”Mama is in over his head. Hell, he’d be in over his head running a McDonalds…
Running a McDonald’s isn’t the same as serving up the fries with your order. A lot of people would be in over their head running a McDonald’s, Obomba is just one of them.
Now if you had said he would be in over his head shoveling pigshit I would have believed you.
>> Paddy-O said, on May 6th, 2009 at 8:39 am
>> # 34 Greg Allen said, “You called us terrorist-lovers but… we are really lovers of 16 year old boys…
You’re talking about REPUBLICAN Mark Foley.
_I’M_ talking about how WE WARNED YOU that the Patriot Act would come back to bite Americans in the ass.
After 911, you conservatives collectively crapped your pants. Then you collectively crapped on the constitution.
We warned you not to over-react. You over-reacted anyway.
# 40 Greg Allen said, “_I’M_ talking about how WE WARNED YOU that the Patriot Act would come back to bite Americans in the ass.”
“We”? Irrelevant. O’Mama is now in control. All he has to do is instruct Justice to follow the Constitution. Why hasn’t he?
#42, I agree.
He can personally order the death of someone but he can’t issue an executive order to negate the Patriot Act?
I find that line of logic offensive, especially after all the BS we’ve heard about how Bush was a dictator. I guess the Obamessiah is just spineless (or a secret dictator).
An executive order is not a law and can not over turn a law passed by Congress. It is a separation of powers thing. To get rid of the Patriot Act a court must find that it violates the Constitution or Congress must repeal the law. If they start repealing laws I have a few more they can get rid of starting with the DMCA.
#44, An executive order is not a law and can not over turn a law passed by Congress.
You are correct and I accept I was overzealous in my condemnation.
However, as head of the Executive Branch, he can refuse to “enforce” that law via executive order.
Then, it would be up to Congress to impeach him for failing to do his job. As that would NEVER happen, the only reason the PA is still in effect is because he wants it to be.
# 44 Improbus said, “An executive order is not a law and can not over turn a law passed by Congress.”
Actually, as Fed law trumps State law, the Constitution trumps Fed law. There is ZERO problem in O’Mama ordering the Justice Dept to obey the Constitution.
Nice try, but, no cigar. O’Mama CHOOSES to NOT follow the Constitution. Impeachable offense, no?
. . . or maybe Obama thinks Bush did a good job on foreign policy.
# 47 LibertyLover said, “or maybe Obama thinks Bush did a good job on foreign policy.”
Could be why he contniues to have people held in prison in Afghanistan and is fighting in the US courts to prevent them from challenging their detainment…
#48, Yeah, in a couple of more years, people are going to look back and say, “Bush wasn’t that bad. At least I had a house!”
When that happens, you’ll know we’re in the sh*t then.
I can’t say I am please with everything Obama is doing but having him in the job is better than the Republican alternative.
#51 – So, you’re okay with him violating the Constitution? You were all for impeaching Bush for violating it.
Aren’t you going to be consistent & call for Obama’s impeachment? Or, are you a hypocrite?
Could one, just one, of you ijits point out one right that has been stripped from this kid? Everyone here is complaining how he was charged under the Patriot Act and his rights are being taken from him blah blah blah.
Please, just one right that this kid has had taken from him?
Then we can go on to complain. Talk about sheeple.
#53 – Habeas corpus.
#53. Uh, I think Paddy-O got you on that one Fusion. And pls, whatever happened to innocent before proven guilty. Why isn’t he in the custody of his parents, or at least under house arrest. Oh that’s right, he isn’t Bernie Madoff wealthy. You have to ruin the lives of thousands of people to get that kind of treatment.
@Paddy-O
I don’t need to call for his impeachment when we have wingnuts like yourself to do it for me. Good luck with that … I am sure you will have the same success that you had when you had Bush impeached.
Goddammit, following the laws of the Constitution isn’t optional, it isn’t a fucking luxury, and it isn’t absurd to ask that the government abide by its own rules. I don’t know why everyone seems to think it is, but it’s not.
Calling in bomb threats is terrorism, and the law is still in effect. The problem here is both the 10th grade brat and the law.
#10 – “So what are we going to do about it? Probably nothing. We’ll whine on message boards, but not even do so much as write a letter to their elected representatives.”
Oh ye of little faith…. Some of us do take democracy seriously. I called the DC office of the NC-4th, where I was told they were recently made aware and were looking into it. They did mention that the family actually lives in the NC-1st district. I called their D.C. offices where they were aware but unwilling to say much about it to me about the case. (Congressman G.K. Butterfield, if anyone feels like looking him up.)
I then contacted my own Congressman’s D.C. office, and asked simply that they reach out to Rep. Butterfield’s office and extend any support they could to aid in investigating the facts of the family’s situation, and sent them what relevant details are available.
I didn’t advocate this boy’s guilt or innocence, and I don’t pretend to know if the evidence against him supports the current action — but I do take due process seriously, and congress should be taking a hard look at the specifics of the case to determine if this is really the application they intended from the law.
Democracy works — but only if everyone doesn’t rely on their neighbors to do everything for them. Find an issue that matters to you and get up and do your part.
# 59 Jägermeister said, “The problem here is both the 10th grade brat and the law.”
Umm, no. As has been pointed out, the problem is with Obama refusing to uphold the Constitution.
#13
At 1:30 in the video the mention that hers son’s IP address was stolen. Stolen/spoofed same thing.
#54, Cow-Patty,
Where did it state that the kid’s rights of habeous corpus were violated? Do you even know what habeous corpus even is?
Now, show me where habeous corpus is in the Constitution.
#63 ROLF!!! This is Dvorak Uncensored, NOT, Dvorak Uneducated. Run along now and stay off mommies computer.
#62, Wayne,
Did you fall off of the same turnip truck Cow-Patty did?
I don’t believe that someone stole / “spoofed” his IP address in order to make crank bomb threats. Spoofing is done for gain, not pranks. While they may appear to the receiver to be a good site, they are very traceable to the original site.
Face it, the kid got caught, the mom can’t visit because the son is incarcerated several hundred miles away, the Judge put a gag order on both sides, and nobody knows what the hell rights have been denied the kid everyone is crying has his rights denied!
@Mr. Fusion
You are being a douche. <a href=”http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habeas_corpus_in_the_United_States”?Habeas corpus is in Article One, Section 9 of the Constitution: The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it.
#63
Article One, Section 9
“The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it.”